Ta04r...
10-10-2001, 09:35 PM
#166
Yes, i've experienced front belt tightness. on both my TA04's (Modena kit and "R"). I've "broken-in" those belts by running the belt tensioner low and running it (choose one of your worse motors cause the increased drivetrain friction may damage it).
I can't wait to get my TA04R on the track!
I can't wait to get my TA04R on the track!
10-10-2001, 09:42 PM
#167
The 04-R is awesome on the track, and is soo much easier to drive than my TC3, here's the run down from last Saturday ( my first race with mt 04-R)
Qualified 4th
by the end of the first lap I was in 5th
2nd lap saw my car in 7th- dead last and one lap down
by the end of my 3rd lap I regained 6th
lap 6 picked up 5th
8th lap pulled up to 4th and stayed there for 4 more laps
then I passed the number 3 car on my 13th lap and only held that for 1 lap
by the end of my 14th lap I reeled in the number 2 car.....and passed him
and I held off 4 separate defenders for the next 16 laps
FINAL RESULTS----------- 2ND-----------------
Also I believe a TA04-pro took top honors in stock over and entire onslaught of TC3's and XXX-S's....... pretty dang sweet if you ask me......
Qualified 4th
by the end of the first lap I was in 5th
2nd lap saw my car in 7th- dead last and one lap down
by the end of my 3rd lap I regained 6th
lap 6 picked up 5th
8th lap pulled up to 4th and stayed there for 4 more laps
then I passed the number 3 car on my 13th lap and only held that for 1 lap
by the end of my 14th lap I reeled in the number 2 car.....and passed him
and I held off 4 separate defenders for the next 16 laps
FINAL RESULTS----------- 2ND-----------------
Also I believe a TA04-pro took top honors in stock over and entire onslaught of TC3's and XXX-S's....... pretty dang sweet if you ask me......
10-11-2001, 01:12 PM
#168
IMPACTPLAYR ,
Congrats, pretty good for the first time out with the car. What was the surface? What was your setup? Were you using a 1-way?
hobbipro,
yes, the front belt it really really tight. I like some things tight, but not the front belt. After 10 battery packs in Mod, the belt was still tight. The car handles great, but doesn't quite have the snap coming out of corners mostly due to the power robbing front belt. As recommended by another TA04 owner, I dremeled out the front gearcase to move the front diff a bit closer. That seems to work well.
Congrats, pretty good for the first time out with the car. What was the surface? What was your setup? Were you using a 1-way?
hobbipro,
yes, the front belt it really really tight. I like some things tight, but not the front belt. After 10 battery packs in Mod, the belt was still tight. The car handles great, but doesn't quite have the snap coming out of corners mostly due to the power robbing front belt. As recommended by another TA04 owner, I dremeled out the front gearcase to move the front diff a bit closer. That seems to work well.
10-11-2001, 09:40 PM
#169
Set-up
Front-
Springs- Blue
Oil- 70 weight trinity
overall shock length- 61.5mm
swaybar- none
droop- 3 on the Associated guage
pulley- ball diff
caster- -1deg.
ride height- 5 mm
Toe in/out- 0 toe
Rear-
Springs- White
Oil- 70 weight trinity
overall shock lenght- 61.5
swaybar- none
droop- 3 on the Associated guage
layshaft pulley- stock (no one-way)
caster- -1 deg.
ride height- 5.5mm
Wheels/Tires/Inserts
Front
Tires- Tamiya A belted slicks
Wheels- Yokomo inch-ups
Inserts- Yokomo Medium
Rear
Tires- Tamiya A belted slicks
Wheels- Yokomo inch-ups
Inserts- Yokomo soft
Body
Tamiya Alteeza w/adjustable wing with rake set to the least
Both ball diffs are set to "just tight enough to not slip" with the front 1/16th tighter than the back.
otherwise everything was stock.
Turn in was awesome and a slight (very slight) push out of the turns and high speed steering had the same slight push. Just tap the brakes and the reaer end would come around, but was still very controllable.
Springs- Blue
Oil- 70 weight trinity
overall shock length- 61.5mm
swaybar- none
droop- 3 on the Associated guage
pulley- ball diff
caster- -1deg.
ride height- 5 mm
Toe in/out- 0 toe
Rear-
Springs- White
Oil- 70 weight trinity
overall shock lenght- 61.5
swaybar- none
droop- 3 on the Associated guage
layshaft pulley- stock (no one-way)
caster- -1 deg.
ride height- 5.5mm
Wheels/Tires/Inserts
Front
Tires- Tamiya A belted slicks
Wheels- Yokomo inch-ups
Inserts- Yokomo Medium
Rear
Tires- Tamiya A belted slicks
Wheels- Yokomo inch-ups
Inserts- Yokomo soft
Body
Tamiya Alteeza w/adjustable wing with rake set to the least
Both ball diffs are set to "just tight enough to not slip" with the front 1/16th tighter than the back.
otherwise everything was stock.
Turn in was awesome and a slight (very slight) push out of the turns and high speed steering had the same slight push. Just tap the brakes and the reaer end would come around, but was still very controllable.
10-11-2001, 09:45 PM
#170
Track
sorry the track is indoor asphalt medium bite and over-all size is about 60'x40' and the coarse was layed out a little "loose" pics can be seen at:
RCO Raceway
Indoor temps are about 70 deg.
RCO Raceway
Indoor temps are about 70 deg.
10-12-2001, 08:12 AM
#171
Changing Shock Oil
Hi!
May i know how you guys change shock oil? Empty out the oil oil and put in new ones or actually clean the whole insides of the shock?
May i know how you guys change shock oil? Empty out the oil oil and put in new ones or actually clean the whole insides of the shock?
10-12-2001, 11:00 AM
#172
Alvin,
I just empty the shocks and refill. Some people clean it out with motor spray, but it really doesn't make a huge difference.
IMPACTPLAYR,
Thanks for the info.
My setup is similar, but with a diff 1-way, white springs in front, blue in rear. The track = So-cal raceway, High traction indoor asphalt.
I was using blue front/yellow rear. The car felt balanced, but the body roll in Mod was too pronounced and caused lotsa body scraping in high speed turns.
I found that less droop (high number on assoicated scale) means less of an on-power push. I can't remember what my setting is, but it's more than 3.
I just empty the shocks and refill. Some people clean it out with motor spray, but it really doesn't make a huge difference.
IMPACTPLAYR,
Thanks for the info.
My setup is similar, but with a diff 1-way, white springs in front, blue in rear. The track = So-cal raceway, High traction indoor asphalt.
I was using blue front/yellow rear. The car felt balanced, but the body roll in Mod was too pronounced and caused lotsa body scraping in high speed turns.
I found that less droop (high number on assoicated scale) means less of an on-power push. I can't remember what my setting is, but it's more than 3.
10-12-2001, 11:07 AM
#173
For all you dremel happy people,
I dremeled out battery slots for my TA04-R chassis.
The batteries now sit a fill 0.12" lower!!! I also had to cut the battery hold down posts a bit. The Tamiya plastic is very gummy and a pain to dremel, but worth the effort. I even dremeled out a larger motor cutout for better cooling. The chassis is still extremely stiff despite all the cutouts. I'll try to post a pic soon.
On the Tamiya Japan site, there is text for a whole slew of hopups - part numbers 49194 through 49203. Too bad I can't read Japanese.
I dremeled out battery slots for my TA04-R chassis.
The batteries now sit a fill 0.12" lower!!! I also had to cut the battery hold down posts a bit. The Tamiya plastic is very gummy and a pain to dremel, but worth the effort. I even dremeled out a larger motor cutout for better cooling. The chassis is still extremely stiff despite all the cutouts. I'll try to post a pic soon.
On the Tamiya Japan site, there is text for a whole slew of hopups - part numbers 49194 through 49203. Too bad I can't read Japanese.
10-12-2001, 02:43 PM
#177
Translated from the Tamiya Japan Site:
Looks like Tamiya is going BLUE!
New TA04 Parts:
49194 Blue al steering posts
49195 Al racing steering (blue)
49196 Al servo stay (blue)
49197 Turnbuckle wrench
49198 TRF blue dampeners
49199 Al Motor Heatsink (blue)
49200 Universal shaft assembly
49201 Lightweight rear assembly universal shaft
49202 spur-gear al hub (blue)
49206 HKS lightweight body
That's it. Thanks for Alta-Vista
Looks like Tamiya is going BLUE!
New TA04 Parts:
49194 Blue al steering posts
49195 Al racing steering (blue)
49196 Al servo stay (blue)
49197 Turnbuckle wrench
49198 TRF blue dampeners
49199 Al Motor Heatsink (blue)
49200 Universal shaft assembly
49201 Lightweight rear assembly universal shaft
49202 spur-gear al hub (blue)
49206 HKS lightweight body
That's it. Thanks for Alta-Vista
10-12-2001, 02:45 PM
#178
Glad I could help.
On another note, those with the R kit do you have the black cylinder nut for the shocks? If so does it seem to work pretty good if so do you know what the part number is? I am looking to replace the double nut set on my M. My fingers are to fat to operate those dang things. Plus I like the looks of the black nuts.
On another note, those with the R kit do you have the black cylinder nut for the shocks? If so does it seem to work pretty good if so do you know what the part number is? I am looking to replace the double nut set on my M. My fingers are to fat to operate those dang things. Plus I like the looks of the black nuts.
Last edited by Kraig; 10-12-2001 at 02:49 PM.
10-12-2001, 08:01 PM
#179
Kraig, just finished assembling my R today. I looked in the manual for the black nut on the shocks and there is no number listed except for the entire damper cylinder #9805794. The nut was already on the shock body out of the package, my feeling is that you'd have to get the entire body.
Also does anyone know of where I can get Tamiya parts, besides Tower hobbies? I want to stock up on basic parts for my pit box such as #9805740 Ball-headed king pin, cant seem to find it anywhere. Parts such as a-arms, kingpins, belts, ect are a must when I am racing. I havent found the Type R, and T motors either.
Also does anyone know of where I can get Tamiya parts, besides Tower hobbies? I want to stock up on basic parts for my pit box such as #9805740 Ball-headed king pin, cant seem to find it anywhere. Parts such as a-arms, kingpins, belts, ect are a must when I am racing. I havent found the Type R, and T motors either.
10-12-2001, 08:02 PM
#180
Kriag,
Do you mean the plastic ring used to set the shock preload? Looking through my manual, if that's the one we're both thinking about I believe it comes with the whole shock body
Do you mean the plastic ring used to set the shock preload? Looking through my manual, if that's the one we're both thinking about I believe it comes with the whole shock body