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06-28-2005, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DJG24
You use 1 degree offset rear hubs!! 1 degree hub on each side of the car equals 2 degrees of rear toe. 2 degree hubs would give you 4 degrees of rear toe. By the way the 1 degree offset hubs from the xxxs work on the jrxs (I'm using them)
When Losi refers to toe-in it is per side not total so when you see 1deg of toe in its per side so that would be a total of 2deg over all.
06-28-2005, 04:16 PM
#6333
Greenbandit, Pooky is one of the BK bracket guys, i'm sure he'll get you some info on them. I also got neat set from another guy on here, but can't remember his name(bad I know). He actually had something that is black anodised so it is less noticable.
These brackets move the lower shock mount out on the arm, so you can run a softer spring. I'm not positive what it's benifits are over a similar feeling normal shock mount combo, but my car works Very well with them. I can only assume they are trying to slow the spring(by lowering it's rate) and increase the shock piston speed.......But it works well, Jim
These brackets move the lower shock mount out on the arm, so you can run a softer spring. I'm not positive what it's benifits are over a similar feeling normal shock mount combo, but my car works Very well with them. I can only assume they are trying to slow the spring(by lowering it's rate) and increase the shock piston speed.......But it works well, Jim
06-28-2005, 04:36 PM
#6334
Since it was asked what optional parts people recommend, I just wanted to recommend the Rubberneck/P-Dub Racing bumper, like several others have. Not only is it a part saver, but it could be a race saver. My car took a couple good hard board hits racing mod Saturday night, and drove away from them when I felt it had no right to do so, allowing me to finish the heat/main. The bumper will pay for itself in saved parts/wrenching time.
Is Pookyt still doing the BK (or PK
) brackets? I thought I saw mention of a new improved design coming. Any word?
Is Pookyt still doing the BK (or PK
) brackets? I thought I saw mention of a new improved design coming. Any word?
06-28-2005, 06:32 PM
#6336
On Brian K's setup sheet, he marked 2 degree block and 2 degree hubs which would equal 4 degrees of toe. I believe BK likely meant that he used the 2 degree block with 0 degree hubs for a total of 2 degrees of rear toe.
Certainly, Todd can clarify if he sees this...But, I doubt that 4 degrees of toe is applicable to any setup.
Certainly, Todd can clarify if he sees this...But, I doubt that 4 degrees of toe is applicable to any setup.
06-28-2005, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JRX-S Bill
On Brian K's setup sheet, he marked 2 degree block and 2 degree hubs which would equal 4 degrees of toe. I believe BK likely meant that he used the 2 degree block with 0 degree hubs for a total of 2 degrees of rear toe.
Certainly, Todd can clarify if he sees this...But, I doubt that 4 degrees of toe is applicable to any setup.
Certainly, Todd can clarify if he sees this...But, I doubt that 4 degrees of toe is applicable to any setup.
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06-28-2005, 07:09 PM
#6339
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According to the instruction sheet that came with my 1 degree offset hubs it clearly states that 1 degree hubs = 1 degree per side giving the car a total of 2 degrees of toe at the hub.
On BK's carpet national setup he is using a 0 degree rear pivot block with 2 degrees of toe in for the rear meaning he is using 1 degree offset hubs with a 0 rear pivot block which totals 2 degrees of rear toe.
I sat next to him at the nats and he had 1 degree hubs for sure.
On BK's carpet national setup he is using a 0 degree rear pivot block with 2 degrees of toe in for the rear meaning he is using 1 degree offset hubs with a 0 rear pivot block which totals 2 degrees of rear toe.
I sat next to him at the nats and he had 1 degree hubs for sure.
06-28-2005, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RC Old Man
The 1/2 deg hubs are .25 per side and the 1 deg hubs are .50 per side. So wen putting them on you are getting a total of 1/2 or 1 deg.
06-28-2005, 07:17 PM
#6341
Originally Posted by Kevin K
This is not correct. When you have a 1/2deg hub its just that a 1/2deg hub....the deg is per side not total. Take your car and measure it with 0deg hubs then throw on 1/2deg blocks on you will see the toe-in change 1/2deg per side or 1deg total. Same thing when you add 1deg blocks the total amount of toe will increase 2deg.
06-28-2005, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DJG24
According to the instruction sheet that came with my 1 degree offset hubs it clearly states that 1 degree hubs = 1 degree per side giving the car a total of 2 degrees of toe at the hub.
On BK's carpet national setup he is using a 0 degree rear pivot block with 2 degrees of toe in for the rear meaning he is using 1 degree offset hubs with a 0 rear pivot block which totals 2 degrees of rear toe.
I sat next to him at the nats and he had 1 degree hubs for sure.
On BK's carpet national setup he is using a 0 degree rear pivot block with 2 degrees of toe in for the rear meaning he is using 1 degree offset hubs with a 0 rear pivot block which totals 2 degrees of rear toe.
I sat next to him at the nats and he had 1 degree hubs for sure.
2 degree pivot with 1 degree hubs equals 3 degrees of toe per side.
0 degree pivot with 1 degree hubs equals 1 degree of toer per side.
06-28-2005, 07:19 PM
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DJ....on the BK setup sheet on the Losi site he has 2deg hubs listed....on that same setup sheet they have 3deg and 4deg hubs listed....these are to work in conjunction with the negative deg pivot blocks. You saw his car so you would know better then I would but according to the setup sheet he had 2deg hubs or thats what he wants us to think.
06-28-2005, 07:26 PM
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Yeah DJ, I think Kevin is right, either he used 1DEG hubs (PER SIDE), like you say and he marked it wrong on the setup sheet as 2DEG hub (PER SIDE), or he actually used 2DEG HUB (PER SIDE) and you didn't really pay attention.
On that setup sheet he said he used 2DEG HUBS (PER SIDE) and 0 DEG REAR PIVOT
On that setup sheet he said he used 2DEG HUBS (PER SIDE) and 0 DEG REAR PIVOT
06-28-2005, 07:29 PM
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If you read the setup sheet carefully it states
off set hubs
0 degree rear pivot block
2 degrees of toe in for rear total (listed right above ride height)
I think the 2 degree hub is a typo because he clearly states he has a total of 2 degrees toe in in the rear and states 0 rear pivot, which is the 1 degree blocks that I saw which equals 2 degrees + 0 at the pivot for a total of 2 degrees rear toe. The only reason I noticed the rear 1 degree blocks was that I was noticing how they were the same as the xxxs ones and I saw they were 1 degree. I'm also running the setup now at the Hobby Chamber and believe me 2 degree hubs which would be 4 degrees of toe in would make the car push like a snow plow!!!
I re read the sheet and I believe the 2 degree hubs means that the 2 degrees of rear toe is 2 degrees at the hub. If it said 2 degrees total rear toe but had 1 degree hub then it would have 1 degree rear pivot meaning
1 degree rear pivot
1 degree toe at the hubs (consisting of 1/2 degree hubs to equal 1 degree)
Total of 2 degrees
I think the hub on the set up sheet just point out how much toe is at the hubs meaning the 4 would be 2 degree rear hubs totaling 4 degree of toe at the hubs not 4 degree hubs which would equal 8 degrees
off set hubs
0 degree rear pivot block
2 degrees of toe in for rear total (listed right above ride height)
I think the 2 degree hub is a typo because he clearly states he has a total of 2 degrees toe in in the rear and states 0 rear pivot, which is the 1 degree blocks that I saw which equals 2 degrees + 0 at the pivot for a total of 2 degrees rear toe. The only reason I noticed the rear 1 degree blocks was that I was noticing how they were the same as the xxxs ones and I saw they were 1 degree. I'm also running the setup now at the Hobby Chamber and believe me 2 degree hubs which would be 4 degrees of toe in would make the car push like a snow plow!!!
I re read the sheet and I believe the 2 degree hubs means that the 2 degrees of rear toe is 2 degrees at the hub. If it said 2 degrees total rear toe but had 1 degree hub then it would have 1 degree rear pivot meaning
1 degree rear pivot
1 degree toe at the hubs (consisting of 1/2 degree hubs to equal 1 degree)
Total of 2 degrees
I think the hub on the set up sheet just point out how much toe is at the hubs meaning the 4 would be 2 degree rear hubs totaling 4 degree of toe at the hubs not 4 degree hubs which would equal 8 degrees
Last edited by DJG24; 06-28-2005 at 07:40 PM.