Serpent S411
#4081
#4083
Tech Master
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The grip was low, and the two heats that I found traction I had electrical issues.... Only got to finish one A-main (13.5) due to rain but first couple of turns I clipped the curbs and tweaked the chassis really bad, so I limped it into 9th.
I tried grey and black springs, but those were too stiff for the grip level.... can't say I really found a setup I liked, but I don't have any experience with asphalt so it's not the car's fault.
#4085
slop in 411
Has anyone else had excessive amounts of slop in the 411, especially the front end? All the parts are stock from the kit. It seems like the a-arms and uprights are almost a rubberized material. Is there a way to remedy this?
#4086
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Serpent has 3 different stiffness on the parts, originals are soft, then Medium and hard parts.
Original kit came with the soft parts. they were actually great for real low traction surfaces and they didnt break
LE and TE has Medium on them but the chassis is 2.25mm original had 2.5mm
Many running changes are made during production so you might have the soft parts on your car.
for some odd reason the car works perfectly fine with the slop. using harder parts and hitting less solved the slop problem I was having but then the car becomes more nervous.
#4087
I run a combination of hard arms with med c-hubs, uprights and steering blocks, and don't really have any slop issues. I can tell you that the only slop I really notice is with the stock ball links, which when loose seem to amplify the slop feel of the rest of the parts. To fix this I just put a piece of plastic bag over the ball and pop the link over that, it cuts its own piece, and then I pull the leftover off, (usually makes a perfect hole in the plastic). One layer is usually enough and this really tightens the car up, but doesn't bind any of the links.
#4088
Eh......
The grip was low, and the two heats that I found traction I had electrical issues.... Only got to finish one A-main (13.5) due to rain but first couple of turns I clipped the curbs and tweaked the chassis really bad, so I limped it into 9th.
I tried grey and black springs, but those were too stiff for the grip level.... can't say I really found a setup I liked, but I don't have any experience with asphalt so it's not the car's fault.
The grip was low, and the two heats that I found traction I had electrical issues.... Only got to finish one A-main (13.5) due to rain but first couple of turns I clipped the curbs and tweaked the chassis really bad, so I limped it into 9th.
I tried grey and black springs, but those were too stiff for the grip level.... can't say I really found a setup I liked, but I don't have any experience with asphalt so it's not the car's fault.
I hear you, don't think I can really ever fault the car with the final results either.
At least you where there representing, thanks for that.
#4089
Steering Servo mod.
So it seems everyone has gone crazy with coming up with mods to secure the steering servo from the top rather than the chassis. I think we have a pretty good system right now, but do a couple of mods to it, that I think add to the car.
First, I still hack stuff pretty well, so I still use a servo saver, but, to get the clearence for the saver I take a drum sander and notch the servo mount so the servo saver sits in a hollowed out part of the mount. I'll take this down so that at its thinnest point it is one layer of laminent, similar to the thickness of the motor depression on the chassis.
The other thing I do, is eliminate the button head screw on the outer portion of the servo mount. This one I actually counter sink so that you can use a cs screw, which moves it up considerably and pretty much eliminates any chance of touching surface on hard roll situations. Just be carefull when doing this as there isn't much material to work with there and you can easily burn thru it and mess up the mount. I use a old well worn dremel grinding stone that is very close to the proper pitch of the screw head.
First, I still hack stuff pretty well, so I still use a servo saver, but, to get the clearence for the saver I take a drum sander and notch the servo mount so the servo saver sits in a hollowed out part of the mount. I'll take this down so that at its thinnest point it is one layer of laminent, similar to the thickness of the motor depression on the chassis.
The other thing I do, is eliminate the button head screw on the outer portion of the servo mount. This one I actually counter sink so that you can use a cs screw, which moves it up considerably and pretty much eliminates any chance of touching surface on hard roll situations. Just be carefull when doing this as there isn't much material to work with there and you can easily burn thru it and mess up the mount. I use a old well worn dremel grinding stone that is very close to the proper pitch of the screw head.
#4090
Tech Master
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So it seems everyone has gone crazy with coming up with mods to secure the steering servo from the top rather than the chassis. I think we have a pretty good system right now, but do a couple of mods to it, that I think add to the car.
First, I still hack stuff pretty well, so I still use a servo saver, but, to get the clearence for the saver I take a drum sander and notch the servo mount so the servo saver sits in a hollowed out part of the mount. I'll take this down so that at its thinnest point it is one layer of laminent, similar to the thickness of the motor depression on the chassis.
The other thing I do, is eliminate the button head screw on the outer portion of the servo mount. This one I actually counter sink so that you can use a cs screw, which moves it up considerably and pretty much eliminates any chance of touching surface on hard roll situations. Just be carefull when doing this as there isn't much material to work with there and you can easily burn thru it and mess up the mount. I use a old well worn dremel grinding stone that is very close to the proper pitch of the screw head.
First, I still hack stuff pretty well, so I still use a servo saver, but, to get the clearence for the saver I take a drum sander and notch the servo mount so the servo saver sits in a hollowed out part of the mount. I'll take this down so that at its thinnest point it is one layer of laminent, similar to the thickness of the motor depression on the chassis.
The other thing I do, is eliminate the button head screw on the outer portion of the servo mount. This one I actually counter sink so that you can use a cs screw, which moves it up considerably and pretty much eliminates any chance of touching surface on hard roll situations. Just be carefull when doing this as there isn't much material to work with there and you can easily burn thru it and mess up the mount. I use a old well worn dremel grinding stone that is very close to the proper pitch of the screw head.
Funny that you mention a "floating system" like the XRAY now... I was brainstorming it while at work today! I have a busted chassis to cut some mounts from, so the Dremel will get a workout this evening
#4091
I've been running just the center servo mount with no issues. A slice of servo tape underneath prevents movement.... although a really hard hit can knock the steering trim off a few points. This can be fixed by having a "standoff" mounted behind the servo to prevent it from being pushed back.
Funny that you mention a "floating system" like the XRAY now... I was brainstorming it while at work today! I have a busted chassis to cut some mounts from, so the Dremel will get a workout this evening
Funny that you mention a "floating system" like the XRAY now... I was brainstorming it while at work today! I have a busted chassis to cut some mounts from, so the Dremel will get a workout this evening
Although I really wonder if its worth it, I know in theory what its suppose to do, but don't know if the car has ever really suffered in that area. Guess its one of those things that make you go HHHMMMM!
#4092
I've been running just the center servo mount with no issues. A slice of servo tape underneath prevents movement.... although a really hard hit can knock the steering trim off a few points. This can be fixed by having a "standoff" mounted behind the servo to prevent it from being pushed back.
Funny that you mention a "floating system" like the XRAY now... I was brainstorming it while at work today! I have a busted chassis to cut some mounts from, so the Dremel will get a workout this evening
Funny that you mention a "floating system" like the XRAY now... I was brainstorming it while at work today! I have a busted chassis to cut some mounts from, so the Dremel will get a workout this evening
#4093
Soft vs. hard parts on carpet
Thanks for the explanation. I replace my front hubs and c hubs and much less slop. It just looks like the soft (kit) frt a arms are very soft.
For carpet are the kit (soft) parts the best? Thx.
For carpet are the kit (soft) parts the best? Thx.
#4094
I think the hard parts are almost better in all conditions. On super high grip indoor carpet the soft parts could absorb some traction and make the car traction roll less. But I think the corner speed will suffer.
#4095
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if you do not have traction rolling issues, I would suggest Hard arms and hard C-hubs, with medium other stuff as a starting point with the 2.25 chassis. this gives you good flex and stable suspension. from that point on you will have to find which will be a better way to go.
If the grip goes up and the car starts to traction roll I move down to medium arms without changing setup to see if that will solve the problem without loosing too much speed.