Just saying thanks and goodbye
12-04-2010, 08:55 AM
#4
IDK why. Lipos take so damn long to charge.
I went to use my brothers electric buggy, started the charge for (2) 2s, 5000mah lipos at what his charger could handle.(1c,5 amps) started it at or around 12:15-12:30 pm at 10 minutes till 2 pm they were still charging!!
They were almost done, but then after that charge there is another hour for balance!!
It could be fixed with a 250 dollar charger though.
But even if it took 1 hour, you get 15-20min of run time then another hour to charge. or in my case that day nearly another 2:45-3 hours.
That charge time is what keeps me away from running 1/8 electric.
I went to use my brothers electric buggy, started the charge for (2) 2s, 5000mah lipos at what his charger could handle.(1c,5 amps) started it at or around 12:15-12:30 pm at 10 minutes till 2 pm they were still charging!!
They were almost done, but then after that charge there is another hour for balance!!
It could be fixed with a 250 dollar charger though.
But even if it took 1 hour, you get 15-20min of run time then another hour to charge. or in my case that day nearly another 2:45-3 hours.
That charge time is what keeps me away from running 1/8 electric.
12-04-2010, 09:08 AM
#5
Nitro Engines
Well, I have both.
I ran my electric 1/8th scale buggy yesterday for about 20 minutes on a single charge.
Had a blast. No pit stops, no tuning, outside temp was about 50 degrees.
Went back into the house, pulled the other batteries off the charger and ready for the next round.
I like nitro and I will always have them. But, electric can be fun as well.
I didn't have to pay for any fuel seeing is the season is over and I am out.
When the temps get into the 20s I can do this that a nitro can't do.
I can sit in my house and run my electric car from my upstairs window. I
don't have to worry about flaming out or anything like that for again, 20 minutes. Try that with a nitro.
You might break a connecting rod..........
If you don't keep that engine warm enough, you'll be sorry...
Now when the summer comes, Nitro it is.
electrics can overheat, believe me, I've melted a few speed controllers in my time.
Tekin
Novak
Castle Creations (actually didn't melt, just stopped working)
I've melted them all.
I like nitro though. Wish 2wd Nitro truck would return.
I ran my electric 1/8th scale buggy yesterday for about 20 minutes on a single charge.
Had a blast. No pit stops, no tuning, outside temp was about 50 degrees.
Went back into the house, pulled the other batteries off the charger and ready for the next round.
I like nitro and I will always have them. But, electric can be fun as well.
I didn't have to pay for any fuel seeing is the season is over and I am out.
When the temps get into the 20s I can do this that a nitro can't do.
I can sit in my house and run my electric car from my upstairs window. I
don't have to worry about flaming out or anything like that for again, 20 minutes. Try that with a nitro.
You might break a connecting rod..........
If you don't keep that engine warm enough, you'll be sorry...
Now when the summer comes, Nitro it is.
electrics can overheat, believe me, I've melted a few speed controllers in my time.
Tekin
Novak
Castle Creations (actually didn't melt, just stopped working)
I've melted them all.
I like nitro though. Wish 2wd Nitro truck would return.
12-04-2010, 09:19 AM
#6
IDK why. Lipos take so damn long to charge.
I went to use my brothers electric buggy, started the charge for (2) 2s, 5000mah lipos at what his charger could handle.(1c,5 amps) started it at or around 12:15-12:30 pm at 10 minutes till 2 pm they were still charging!!
They were almost done, but then after that charge there is another hour for balance!!
It could be fixed with a 250 dollar charger though.
But even if it took 1 hour, you get 15-20min of run time then another hour to charge. or in my case that day nearly another 2:45-3 hours.
That charge time is what keeps me away from running 1/8 electric.
I went to use my brothers electric buggy, started the charge for (2) 2s, 5000mah lipos at what his charger could handle.(1c,5 amps) started it at or around 12:15-12:30 pm at 10 minutes till 2 pm they were still charging!!
They were almost done, but then after that charge there is another hour for balance!!
It could be fixed with a 250 dollar charger though.
But even if it took 1 hour, you get 15-20min of run time then another hour to charge. or in my case that day nearly another 2:45-3 hours.
That charge time is what keeps me away from running 1/8 electric.
Rx , igniter , starter box batteries all need to be charged--actually there are more batteries involved with nitro, than electric....
12-04-2010, 10:30 AM
#7
There were a few reasons I decided to go with electric. My daughter has slight asthma, and sometimes the nitro fumes can aggravate that. Also, the nearest track is 100 miles away, so racing is only a once in a while deal; I bring my family to the park and all of the parks nearby have a no gas powered engines rule (city ordinance I believe) in effect.
I also found that there are more batteries involved with nitro = Starter box, rx pack, glow ignitor.
But, nitro is still more fun to watch! I was just really surprised at how much power electrics have. Running a Vorza on 4s 30c 4500mah, and it is really fast.
Didn't want to start a flame war or debate on electric vs nitro, but did want to thank everyone for sharing all their knowledge on this site. Lots of great info (and sometimes not lol), and some really good people on here.
I also found that there are more batteries involved with nitro = Starter box, rx pack, glow ignitor.
But, nitro is still more fun to watch! I was just really surprised at how much power electrics have. Running a Vorza on 4s 30c 4500mah, and it is really fast.
Didn't want to start a flame war or debate on electric vs nitro, but did want to thank everyone for sharing all their knowledge on this site. Lots of great info (and sometimes not lol), and some really good people on here.
12-04-2010, 10:33 AM
#8
no need to worry guys theres still going to plently of nitro running outdoors in 2011 trust me.
it depends on where you live at to it seems like.
i run a lipo in my slash for indoor racing and personally i dont like waiting for it to charge it takes to long just peaking them off.
it depends on where you live at to it seems like.
i run a lipo in my slash for indoor racing and personally i dont like waiting for it to charge it takes to long just peaking them off.
12-04-2010, 11:44 AM
#10
12-04-2010, 12:21 PM
#11
they all come back.
lots here are switching from electric to nitro because electric is like a silent movie, more tuning options to play with, plus that much torq in electric is just OVERTHETOP
12-04-2010, 12:27 PM
#12
you'll be back... once you hear some scream, smell the nitro, remembering how how high it got you one night...
they all come back.
lots here are switching from electric to nitro because electric is like a silent movie, more tuning options to play with, plus that much torq in electric is just OVERTHETOP
they all come back.
lots here are switching from electric to nitro because electric is like a silent movie, more tuning options to play with, plus that much torq in electric is just OVERTHETOP
+1 now, dont get me wrong i like the smoothness of a brushless motor but i dont like the rocket blast of torque of a high power electric motor.
but i am thinking about haveing my buggy electric and my truggy nitro for the 2011 outdoor season.
12-04-2010, 12:35 PM
#13
more feel/control
12-04-2010, 12:42 PM
#14
interesting statement about batteries
As mentioned, most Nitro guys are so hard up about electric and fail to remember, they are surrounded by batteries more than they think.
Batteries in the radio. O.K> I'll give you this one.
Batteries in the starter box. Still got to charge it. takes time and if your box isn't charged with you are at the track, you are dead in the water.
Batteries in the receiver box. Same as above. And, if you don't have your fail safe setup, here comes a run away.
I have seen too many nitro guys with this argument,but, their cars are the first to run off wide open into something like Hmmm. A large body of water..
Electric generally doesn't happen like that. Sure it might glitch due to signal loss or interference, but, I have never seen one simply take off wide open in 1 direction.
So, Nitro guys - (I am in that category, give the battery guys a break) It's all fun no matter what.
I like both and I agree with the fun factor of watching the nitro races. The smell, the sound - it's all good, but, I will say this.
Man it sure is cool to see an electric buggy effortlessly clear something no other car could other than a 10th scale electric 4wd.. He Hee
At my track, we had a tripple no one could clear. Not even our fastest electric guy. Well, I came along, and I am not fast driver, but, since I had a new car and new batteries, and of course a 2650kv motor, I had major stupid fast speed and wheel spinning tire busting torque..
I started doubling the jump like everyone else. Then I got the bright idea that I was not even pulling the trigger 1/3 throttle. So the next few laps, I started to try the tripple. The first time. I was trying to not overshoot the jump so I lawn Darted the jump. Oh well, Bullet proof buggy. Next lap I cleared it and from there I was passing people in the air.
The following track maint, some guys were angry and moved the jump further back. I told them they could move the jump back 5 more feet and I could still clear it. They didn't believe me. The following race, I kept clearing that and of course the Nitro guys were angry. Angry because they thought electric was unfair. Every excuse came out of the wood works.
Well, you know what happened after that.
Our electric class grew and grew.
Several of those who were nitro guys went to electric and have gone back because of he breakage of their cars (speed controllers) Several do booth and some are total converts.
On a warm day, I would rather run nitro because the engines can take the heat, on a cold day, I'd rather run electric.
speaking of which, I think I'm going to charge my packs and go to the track.
Luck for me, it's a short walk. My back yard.
Again. I say it's all fun..
Batteries in the radio. O.K> I'll give you this one.
Batteries in the starter box. Still got to charge it. takes time and if your box isn't charged with you are at the track, you are dead in the water.
Batteries in the receiver box. Same as above. And, if you don't have your fail safe setup, here comes a run away.
I have seen too many nitro guys with this argument,but, their cars are the first to run off wide open into something like Hmmm. A large body of water..
Electric generally doesn't happen like that. Sure it might glitch due to signal loss or interference, but, I have never seen one simply take off wide open in 1 direction.
So, Nitro guys - (I am in that category, give the battery guys a break) It's all fun no matter what.
I like both and I agree with the fun factor of watching the nitro races. The smell, the sound - it's all good, but, I will say this.
Man it sure is cool to see an electric buggy effortlessly clear something no other car could other than a 10th scale electric 4wd.. He Hee
At my track, we had a tripple no one could clear. Not even our fastest electric guy. Well, I came along, and I am not fast driver, but, since I had a new car and new batteries, and of course a 2650kv motor, I had major stupid fast speed and wheel spinning tire busting torque..
I started doubling the jump like everyone else. Then I got the bright idea that I was not even pulling the trigger 1/3 throttle. So the next few laps, I started to try the tripple. The first time. I was trying to not overshoot the jump so I lawn Darted the jump. Oh well, Bullet proof buggy. Next lap I cleared it and from there I was passing people in the air.
The following track maint, some guys were angry and moved the jump further back. I told them they could move the jump back 5 more feet and I could still clear it. They didn't believe me. The following race, I kept clearing that and of course the Nitro guys were angry. Angry because they thought electric was unfair. Every excuse came out of the wood works.
Well, you know what happened after that.
Our electric class grew and grew.
Several of those who were nitro guys went to electric and have gone back because of he breakage of their cars (speed controllers) Several do booth and some are total converts.
On a warm day, I would rather run nitro because the engines can take the heat, on a cold day, I'd rather run electric.
speaking of which, I think I'm going to charge my packs and go to the track.
Luck for me, it's a short walk. My back yard.
Again. I say it's all fun..
12-04-2010, 01:07 PM
#15
IDK why. Lipos take so damn long to charge.
I went to use my brothers electric buggy, started the charge for (2) 2s, 5000mah lipos at what his charger could handle.(1c,5 amps) started it at or around 12:15-12:30 pm at 10 minutes till 2 pm they were still charging!!
They were almost done, but then after that charge there is another hour for balance!!
It could be fixed with a 250 dollar charger though.
But even if it took 1 hour, you get 15-20min of run time then another hour to charge. or in my case that day nearly another 2:45-3 hours.
That charge time is what keeps me away from running 1/8 electric.
I went to use my brothers electric buggy, started the charge for (2) 2s, 5000mah lipos at what his charger could handle.(1c,5 amps) started it at or around 12:15-12:30 pm at 10 minutes till 2 pm they were still charging!!
They were almost done, but then after that charge there is another hour for balance!!
It could be fixed with a 250 dollar charger though.
But even if it took 1 hour, you get 15-20min of run time then another hour to charge. or in my case that day nearly another 2:45-3 hours.
That charge time is what keeps me away from running 1/8 electric.