2011 1/8 On-Road IFMAR World Championships, Miami
#694
Tech Master
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What does spraying alcohol on the tires do? What did Tony say about the test?
Tony Rice just texted me that he was the driver chosen by either IFMAR officials or Homestead speedway officials to run laps and then come in to have alcohol sprayed on the tires and then go back out to see if there was a difference in performance
The tire doping finger pointing has gotten so bad that the officials have decided that EVERYONE will have their tires sprayed with alcohol while in staging, prior to going out on to the track.
Tony said when he came in the pits after a couple of laps he looked over to see the worlds best over there watching him making laps ...just dont hit anything, just dont hit anything !! was going through his head
I was over there on Saturday and didnt hear a single thing about tire doping, but I guess the bickering is getting louder than usual.
The tire doping finger pointing has gotten so bad that the officials have decided that EVERYONE will have their tires sprayed with alcohol while in staging, prior to going out on to the track.
Tony said when he came in the pits after a couple of laps he looked over to see the worlds best over there watching him making laps ...just dont hit anything, just dont hit anything !! was going through his head
I was over there on Saturday and didnt hear a single thing about tire doping, but I guess the bickering is getting louder than usual.
#696
Tech Adept
Denatured Alcohol
Carver,
I think the intention of spraying the tires with denatured alcohol is to "dilute" whatever substance "might" be being applied to the tires. I was on pit lane with Tony and his dad when they did the test. They ran maybe 5-6 laps on out of the box tires, trued of course, then they came in, sprayed the tires with denatured alcohol and let the car sit for ten minutes with the car supported. Then they went back out and found there was no difference in performance once the tires had been sprayed. So I guess the idea would be to dilute or remove the "additive" with the alcohol thus bringing the tires back to their original makeup. If you're not using anything...no loss from the spray. If you are...surprise!!! The only downside I see would be if someone is actually doping their tires, the denatured alcohol "may" activate the compound to be more aggressive. Remember some opn-road tracks spray their tracks with VHT cut with denatured alcohol to bring grip up. So this could in-fact backfire.
I think the intention of spraying the tires with denatured alcohol is to "dilute" whatever substance "might" be being applied to the tires. I was on pit lane with Tony and his dad when they did the test. They ran maybe 5-6 laps on out of the box tires, trued of course, then they came in, sprayed the tires with denatured alcohol and let the car sit for ten minutes with the car supported. Then they went back out and found there was no difference in performance once the tires had been sprayed. So I guess the idea would be to dilute or remove the "additive" with the alcohol thus bringing the tires back to their original makeup. If you're not using anything...no loss from the spray. If you are...surprise!!! The only downside I see would be if someone is actually doping their tires, the denatured alcohol "may" activate the compound to be more aggressive. Remember some opn-road tracks spray their tracks with VHT cut with denatured alcohol to bring grip up. So this could in-fact backfire.
#697
Tech Fanatic
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#698
Flavio Elias TQ's the first round.
Of course, it's just a practice round so doesn't really matter but he was very quick AND consistent.
Watching the laptimes, I can see why some would think there is saucing going on. Now I am not there and I am NOT accusing anyone but there were a few drivers that laid down some BALLISTIC laps in the first minute, only to be .5 seconds slower the rest of the way. I have to admit, it does look kinda suspicious though it is probably just a tire or set-up issue.
Of course, it's just a practice round so doesn't really matter but he was very quick AND consistent.
Watching the laptimes, I can see why some would think there is saucing going on. Now I am not there and I am NOT accusing anyone but there were a few drivers that laid down some BALLISTIC laps in the first minute, only to be .5 seconds slower the rest of the way. I have to admit, it does look kinda suspicious though it is probably just a tire or set-up issue.
#702
Tech Master
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Don't they tech the cars before a round? You'd think that would be easy to detect.
Flavio Elias TQ's the first round.
Of course, it's just a practice round so doesn't really matter but he was very quick AND consistent.
Watching the laptimes, I can see why some would think there is saucing going on. Now I am not there and I am NOT accusing anyone but there were a few drivers that laid down some BALLISTIC laps in the first minute, only to be .5 seconds slower the rest of the way. I have to admit, it does look kinda suspicious though it is probably just a tire or set-up issue.
Of course, it's just a practice round so doesn't really matter but he was very quick AND consistent.
Watching the laptimes, I can see why some would think there is saucing going on. Now I am not there and I am NOT accusing anyone but there were a few drivers that laid down some BALLISTIC laps in the first minute, only to be .5 seconds slower the rest of the way. I have to admit, it does look kinda suspicious though it is probably just a tire or set-up issue.
#703
Tech Adept
TIRES??
They (IFMAR) do have a detecting device of some sort but it is not detecting whatever "it" is.
#704
But again, I am doubtful that it is really going on. Just the laptimes of a couple guys looked suspicious and that WILL start rumors whether it is or not. I will watch this next round closely and see if it continues.
Of course if I was going to do it, I would NOT be doing it in practice qualifiers and risk having it found out sooner.