RCGT....Where is it at now?
06-17-2010, 10:40 AM
#257
The point is again, you are giving people more reasons to think about. If someone considered running RCGT, and wanted to use an older car(Brand x) they should just do it. When you put a weight limit, then they will now contemplate "Is it worth it to run this old brand x car if i am xxx grams overweight? I will be slow...forget it..im not gonna buy stuff to make it lighter nor am i gonna buy a new, lighter car". Although this is an example, you can look at a newbie who wants to participate. I know i would be turned off by the weight thing.
THe suggested rules are great. Keeping less rules and making it easier for a newcomer to participate in is even greater. Weighing cars are great if u have the staff to do it. How about smaller tracks like mine where i am the only one running the show? Delays anyone?
WHen we had our first RCGT Club race in the US at Hobbytown Corona, the rules were simple and not complicated. That was the draw for 99% of my racers. Save the crazier racer rules for the TC crowd and keep this class simple and fun.
THe suggested rules are great. Keeping less rules and making it easier for a newcomer to participate in is even greater. Weighing cars are great if u have the staff to do it. How about smaller tracks like mine where i am the only one running the show? Delays anyone?
WHen we had our first RCGT Club race in the US at Hobbytown Corona, the rules were simple and not complicated. That was the draw for 99% of my racers. Save the crazier racer rules for the TC crowd and keep this class simple and fun.
06-17-2010, 10:55 AM
#260
I said it before...show me a 26mm tire in limited compounds for different conditions thats available for 10 bucks and those same tires premounted for 15 bucks.....then you'll get my attention. Unfortunately, "you get what you pay for" still means something.
06-17-2010, 10:58 AM
#261
I agree, but let's see what happens. I still plan on getting the Blast Off tires and trying them out. If they prove more superior, then I will try out the belted slicks. Luckily my LHS has them in stock. If the Belted Slicks are inferior in quality, we may have to make an amendment to RCGT rules or change the name to GTRC so we may run these wheels/tires.
06-17-2010, 11:20 AM
#262
Most likely T.J.....but the jury is still out on the SP tires. If they fit all the parameters RCGT drivers were looking for I would have been hard pressed to push for a non HPI program but so far that doesn't appear to be the case. For me, if these things are 24mm....that won't suit the need. Even if the tires were available seperately, there's to few choices of good wheels for 24mm. Thats the kicker for me.....I like having the custom rims and I like having offsets to make the car look right. All aspects of RCGT. If I simply wanted performance, I'd go 24mm with no offset and go run TC class. I think we all know where that discussion lies.
I said it before...show me a 26mm tire in limited compounds for different conditions thats available for 10 bucks and those same tires premounted for 15 bucks.....then you'll get my attention. Unfortunately, "you get what you pay for" still means something.
I said it before...show me a 26mm tire in limited compounds for different conditions thats available for 10 bucks and those same tires premounted for 15 bucks.....then you'll get my attention. Unfortunately, "you get what you pay for" still means something.
It just irks me that the X-patterns end up costing so much, when this is supposed to be a budget, entry level class. It costs literally $45-55 per set to buy the tires locally. When Solaris touring car tires are $25-30 a set for one of the best pre-mounts that has been on the market for years, I think we should have RCGT tires in the $15-25 range.
06-17-2010, 11:28 AM
#263
Shawn is still seeing what he can do about different rim styles and offsets for us. I think it's way too early to tell.
It just irks me that the X-patterns end up costing so much, when this is supposed to be a budget, entry level class. It costs literally $45-55 per set to buy the tires locally. When Solaris touring car tires are $25-30 a set for one of the best pre-mounts that has been on the market for years, I think we should have RCGT tires in the $15-25 range.
It just irks me that the X-patterns end up costing so much, when this is supposed to be a budget, entry level class. It costs literally $45-55 per set to buy the tires locally. When Solaris touring car tires are $25-30 a set for one of the best pre-mounts that has been on the market for years, I think we should have RCGT tires in the $15-25 range.
06-17-2010, 12:28 PM
#264
I want $15 RCGT tires because I spent too much in TC already! Plus what about the new guys. Why should ONE SET of tires cost 1/5 of what they spend on getting into R/C?
If Shawn can supply us with the tires by themselves for ~$10 a set, you've already saved $20+ off the X-patterns, and then you could mount them on any rim out there.
Again, too early to tell and none of us have even run the Blast Offs yet.
If Shawn can supply us with the tires by themselves for ~$10 a set, you've already saved $20+ off the X-patterns, and then you could mount them on any rim out there.
Again, too early to tell and none of us have even run the Blast Offs yet.
06-17-2010, 01:11 PM
#265
I want $15 RCGT tires because I spent too much in TC already! Plus what about the new guys. Why should ONE SET of tires cost 1/5 of what they spend on getting into R/C?
If Shawn can supply us with the tires by themselves for ~$10 a set, you've already saved $20+ off the X-patterns, and then you could mount them on any rim out there.
Again, too early to tell and none of us have even run the Blast Offs yet.
If Shawn can supply us with the tires by themselves for ~$10 a set, you've already saved $20+ off the X-patterns, and then you could mount them on any rim out there.
Again, too early to tell and none of us have even run the Blast Offs yet.
Man, I wish Shawn Palmer would give us an update as to the status of the tries.
I'm starting to get antsy!
06-17-2010, 01:22 PM
#266
How about we take a step back on the Blast Off Product... it is NEW, so I am sure there will be some development as to what the consumers want.
I really do not understand what the deal is here.... Get your local clubs running the basis of what we have here.. and figure out what tires work/do not work... and then come to a concensus....
When we run it... we will know which way we need to go...
I really do not understand what the deal is here.... Get your local clubs running the basis of what we have here.. and figure out what tires work/do not work... and then come to a concensus....
When we run it... we will know which way we need to go...
06-17-2010, 01:26 PM
#268
How about we take a step back on the Blast Off Product... it is NEW, so I am sure there will be some development as to what the consumers want.
I really do not understand what the deal is here.... Get your local clubs running the basis of what we have here.. and figure out what tires work/do not work... and then come to a concensus....
When we run it... we will know which way we need to go...
I really do not understand what the deal is here.... Get your local clubs running the basis of what we have here.. and figure out what tires work/do not work... and then come to a concensus....
When we run it... we will know which way we need to go...
good objective discussions and positive ideas (except for HarryN pushing for the JL-10E as a spec chassis.
- sorry harry i had to take a shot at someone. 
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06-17-2010, 01:42 PM
#270
I was talking about just buying the Blast Off tires alone and gluing them. In essence what I was saying was if the Blast Off tires are pre-glued and trued (as best as it can be versus the human hand), it would be better to go that route and still save money at only $15 a pop versus nearly 1/5 the cost of a cheap tub chassis for the class.