2LikesLosi XXX-S
10-14-2002, 09:38 PM
#4082
Tech Rookie
Okay guys, Im thinking of getting a XXX-S. I know that is isn't a right answer to which is better Losi or Associated, nor do I like asking the question. But instead let me refrase it. What are some of the advantages into buying an XXX-S over the TC3? Can someone please endulge my curiosities for a second or two?
--Dan
--Dan
10-14-2002, 10:26 PM
#4083
Tech Addict
I would wait for the graphite losi thats coming out or you can buy one from shrekair if he is still selling it. The losi is faster and transions better in my 1 cent and parts are preaty easy to find
10-15-2002, 12:10 AM
#4084
Advantages of the Losi over the TC3
1. easier to drive
2. carries more cornerspeed
3. handles better
Things they share in common:
1. parts support is great everywhere
2. easily tuned
3. easily built and maintained
4. easy to get hopups for
Advantages the TC3 has over the Losi
1. It accelerates harder due to the "shaft"
I know many will agree just like many will disagree but this is my .02 cents.
1. easier to drive
2. carries more cornerspeed
3. handles better
Things they share in common:
1. parts support is great everywhere
2. easily tuned
3. easily built and maintained
4. easy to get hopups for
Advantages the TC3 has over the Losi
1. It accelerates harder due to the "shaft"
I know many will agree just like many will disagree but this is my .02 cents.
10-15-2002, 12:11 AM
#4085
TSR6: like psycho, i too use the one way grease of HPI. its comes in a very small container with a blue screw on cap. if you've got some friends at track running those pro3s, im sure u can ask them for some. the lube is rather thick so a small amount is all you need.... and they stay on for quite a while. just spray out with motor spay and re-lube every once in a while and you're good to go.
10-15-2002, 12:13 AM
#4086
spring rate for 3XS
1.00 spring
purple - 20.0
black - 25.0
1.15 spring
white - 7.6
orange - 8.6
yellow - 9.6
pink - 10.6
red - 11.6
silver - 12.6
blue - 14.6
d.green - 17.5
is there any difference in using 1.15 or 1.00 spring beside the rate?...
go 4 the losi,u wun regard it...
both r gd cars with their own fair share of wins n loses,but the losi has my vote...jus my feelings...
1.00 spring
purple - 20.0
black - 25.0
1.15 spring
white - 7.6
orange - 8.6
yellow - 9.6
pink - 10.6
red - 11.6
silver - 12.6
blue - 14.6
d.green - 17.5
is there any difference in using 1.15 or 1.00 spring beside the rate?...
go 4 the losi,u wun regard it...
both r gd cars with their own fair share of wins n loses,but the losi has my vote...jus my feelings...
10-15-2002, 12:20 AM
#4087
Originally posted by RCDan-O
Okay guys, Im thinking of getting a XXX-S. I know that is isn't a right answer to which is better Losi or Associated, nor do I like asking the question. But instead let me refrase it. What are some of the advantages into buying an XXX-S over the TC3? Can someone please endulge my curiosities for a second or two?
--Dan
Okay guys, Im thinking of getting a XXX-S. I know that is isn't a right answer to which is better Losi or Associated, nor do I like asking the question. But instead let me refrase it. What are some of the advantages into buying an XXX-S over the TC3? Can someone please endulge my curiosities for a second or two?
--Dan
The Losi for me means ordering parts thro' the LHS but the TC3 had most of the parts in stock.
I find the Losi easy to work on and easy to set up, the belt will skip a bit under braking but it's not an issue.
Later,
Pete.
10-15-2002, 06:48 AM
#4089
when i run on foams i run an overdrive by trueing down the rear tires more. would there be any advantage by using the different pulley and haveing the same tire diameter. also when you run the different pulley and you want to work out the rollout which pulley do you go by, the big or the small.
10-15-2002, 06:51 AM
#4090
also does anyone have a nice setup for foams on high grip asphault they would care to share, or know of one online.
10-15-2002, 07:35 AM
#4091
Originally posted by ROBORAT
TSR6: like psycho, i too use the one way grease of HPI. its comes in a very small container with a blue screw on cap. if you've got some friends at track running those pro3s, im sure u can ask them for some. the lube is rather thick so a small amount is all you need.... and they stay on for quite a while. just spray out with motor spay and re-lube every once in a while and you're good to go.
TSR6: like psycho, i too use the one way grease of HPI. its comes in a very small container with a blue screw on cap. if you've got some friends at track running those pro3s, im sure u can ask them for some. the lube is rather thick so a small amount is all you need.... and they stay on for quite a while. just spray out with motor spay and re-lube every once in a while and you're good to go.
-Troy
10-15-2002, 08:03 AM
#4092
Originally posted by ijnek
wat do u mean by "I sacrificed some old Pro-10 rear tires to stop the battery pack from falling out of my car, it happened twice in one race! "...
wat do u mean by "I sacrificed some old Pro-10 rear tires to stop the battery pack from falling out of my car, it happened twice in one race! "...
10-15-2002, 11:31 AM
#4093
ausracer: here you go
front:
57 piston 60wt oil Losi black spring
toe 0
camber -2
kickup 2F
caster block 4
droop 2
Low rollcenter
shock tower #2
camber link #3
arm spacing forward
TRC Plaid tires
rear:
56 piston 50wt oil Losi black spring
toe 2
camber -2
pivot support 0R
low rollcenter
droop 4
shock tower #2 outside on arm
camber link #1 B
arm spacing forward
TRC Purple tires
NO oneways, run FULL DIFFS, ride height at 4.5mm all the way around. This should be a good setup with good steering yet easy to drive.
front:
57 piston 60wt oil Losi black spring
toe 0
camber -2
kickup 2F
caster block 4
droop 2
Low rollcenter
shock tower #2
camber link #3
arm spacing forward
TRC Plaid tires
rear:
56 piston 50wt oil Losi black spring
toe 2
camber -2
pivot support 0R
low rollcenter
droop 4
shock tower #2 outside on arm
camber link #1 B
arm spacing forward
TRC Purple tires
NO oneways, run FULL DIFFS, ride height at 4.5mm all the way around. This should be a good setup with good steering yet easy to drive.
Last edited by Sigearhead; 10-15-2002 at 11:58 AM.
10-15-2002, 12:36 PM
#4094
A lot of questions.
1. What is the reason to use negative kick-up in the front like the indoor foam setup suggest by Todd?
2. Is it possible to try that negative front kick-up with the standard high roll-center?
3. BTW, why is high rollcenter better? How does it change the handling (foams on carpet)? I would like to know it before I dremel my chassis.
4. What tool (tool number please) do you use in your dremel working on the chassis?
1. What is the reason to use negative kick-up in the front like the indoor foam setup suggest by Todd?
2. Is it possible to try that negative front kick-up with the standard high roll-center?
3. BTW, why is high rollcenter better? How does it change the handling (foams on carpet)? I would like to know it before I dremel my chassis.
4. What tool (tool number please) do you use in your dremel working on the chassis?
10-15-2002, 12:46 PM
#4095
the lower the kickup the more agressive the steering will be but it won't handle well on bumpy surfaces that's why they are using this on carpet since these tracks are normally very smooth and normally shorter and much tighter than outdoor tracks so you want the more agressive steering response.
As far as low rollcenter goes, the car initiates the turns better and tends to carry more cornerspeed this way.
I don't know the answer to question #2.
Dremel tool #408 Sanding Band 60 grit works very well.
As far as low rollcenter goes, the car initiates the turns better and tends to carry more cornerspeed this way.
I don't know the answer to question #2.
Dremel tool #408 Sanding Band 60 grit works very well.