Originally Posted by zipperfoot

Id like to know what buggy you guys drove before coming to the 210, and what brought you to the 210.

After an RC vacation I came back in 2011, and started with the Losi 22. I could not drive the 22 to save my life. It was like no matter what I did, I just could not get it to hook up. I loved the car quality wise, it felt really stable, but I was slower than I have ever been.

I then tried the B4.1 Worlds. Great car, but it always felt a little light to me no matter how much weight I added. My lap times were much improved, but I never felt confident. I was running the buggy during the big bore spring craze. After converting to hexes, springs, etc., the buggy did feel pretty good but still a bit jittery for me.

The 210 is the best of all three in my opinion. The stability of the 22, the agility and turning of the B4.1, and the balanced feel you get from the 210. I feel like I can throw the car around the track and it will not let me down. The only negative for me is the ball cups. At first they were fine, but after one started popping off, the rest seemed to follow.

Also, things others have mentioned that were issues have all came to pass for me. Upgrade the RF hinge pin brace to metal, the steering rack brace with carbon or metal, and get the carbon rear brace that Tresrey sells to get the rear inner ball studs off the tranny and you will be bullet proof. I promise.

I describe my driving style as a "go for the triple with a 13.5" kind of driver. As a result, I have had some spectacular crashes and the 210 has proven to be very durable and fun to drive.

Originally Posted by zipperfoot

Id like to know what buggy you guys drove before coming to the 210, and what brought you to the 210.

Originally Posted by zipperfoot

The only negative for me is the ball cups. At first they were fine, but after one started popping off, the rest seemed to follow.

Originally Posted by vw addict

YES YES YES, WHY!?!?!?!?! I finally got my 210 to the track last night, two popped ball cups. I don't think I have ever popped a cup off ANY other car. I can barely make adjustments without popping them off even with trying to jam two wrenches through the holes. I mean seriously!!!!! People had posted a solution by using rpm cups and TC6.1 studs (I think) I have to look it up. I built the car over a month ago and was only finally able to get it on the track for it's first runs yesterday. Now I am wishing I had taken care of the problem a month ago!!

Originally Posted by twisted

thanks guys for all your input about my question.

Originally Posted by OU812_77

With the stock ball studs and cups and turnbuckles

1st put one of the turnbuckles in a drill
2nd using a body reamer slightly ream the thread side of the ball cups
3rd on half of the cups thread in and out a few times leave it on the turnbuckle until it cools
4th flip the turnbuckle over and repeat step 3 on the rest of the cups
5th put a small amount of diff lube on the turnbuckle and thread the cups on

With this method you are cutting the threads and setting them and luberucating them this allows you to easily adjust them. The less you pop them off and Easter they move the better they preform. I use this method on mine and it works and I crash a lot.

Hope this helps

Originally Posted by Tdiddy

This is a proven methood to building these turnbuckles and it only works with brand new ball cups.

Originally Posted by OU812_77

With the stock ball studs and cups and turnbuckles

1st put one of the turnbuckles in a drill
2nd using a body reamer slightly ream the thread side of the ball cups
3rd on half of the cups thread in and out a few times leave it on the turnbuckle until it cools
4th flip the turnbuckle over and repeat step 3 on the rest of the cups
5th put a small amount of diff lube on the turnbuckle and thread the cups on

With this method you are cutting the threads and setting them and luberucating them this allows you to easily adjust them. The less you pop them off and Easter they move the better they preform. I use this method on mine and it works and I crash a lot.

Hope this helps

Originally Posted by P6

so it comes with a gear diff ? and what electronics does the rtr have , my price came in around $550 not rtr or kit build it ground up but itll be a track ready desc210 just because electronics and a few upgrades

Originally Posted by joelwhite

Yes gear diff, the esc is a Speed Passion Citrix Club spec, its a sensored esc with a 9.5 motor limit. Motor is a sealed, no timing 13.5. I bumped up the gearing a tooth or two and it was plenty fast on my local indoor tracks. Servo and radio were ok too.

Plus the car comes with an 81 tooth spur. All 210s should