80LikesDurango DEX210 Thread
12-19-2011, 08:20 PM
#2942
My kit came early from A Main, so I've been working on it since about 2pm today.
Initial Building:
1) Manual (paper & online) are very vague. Every kit I've built in the past had a manual that explained certain steps or gave you instructions on how to setup the diff, or properly setup the shocks. This isn't my first kit, but for the first timer the instruction manual really needs some more, well, instructions.
2) Some bags are labeled, some aren't. Finding the right part for a few steps was slightly annoying.
3) The ball studs are very weak. I've broken two already. These two were the ones on the inner mounts for the front shock tower. Makes in impossible to get a real driver onto the stud because of the way the front tower is designed. Half of the ball on each one snapped off.
4) Turn buckles actually went together nicely. Enlarge the hole for each end and use some grease or oil. Works perfect.
5) Stock bearings for the front wheels seem really tight, and the wheels (no tires) only spin a few revolutions. One of the things to see progress after I get some track time on the car. Maybe they will loosen up.
6) All the hex nuts on the car don't fit any of my tools, except pliers. Also, the provided silver three-point hex tool doesn't work for anything on the car. No idea why it's in the kit.
7) I received Dark Blue front springs, Light blue rear springs.
8) Several parts on the front and rear end didn't line up at all. The servo mount blocks that slide into the side pods are very tight. I had to take apart the front steering linkage and install the servo first along with the bottom linkage plate to get things to finally go into place. In the rear, when installing the transmission, several holes on the bottom didn't line up until i loosened the side pods & toe plates.
9) There are a lot of plastic parts on this car that need to be stiffer, or replaced with carbon/CNC aluminum.
10) Not a single e-clip.
Still to come:
1) I don't know if it's me, but the gear for the top shaft has a lot of play in the transmission. There is a noticeable "tick" when moving the shaft forward & reverse before the rest of the transmission engages. Also, I don't like having the one bearing inside the transmission for the top shaft. I know there's one on the motor plate, but putting the transmission together really bothered me. Setup is RM3.
2) Transmission also has way too many screws. I understand why they are all there, but if there is a real issue with this top shaft thing, it's going to be a pain in the ass to get apart.
3) Waiting on Marcus @ RCShox to ship my pistons, so shocks aren't built yet. TSR bladders and foam coming too.
4) Akula & Tresrey is sending me all carbon stuff, but won't go on until I know how to handle the buggy and not break anything.
5) On accident I put one of the smaller hinge pins on the front inner arms and had to destroy the part the hinge pin sits in the rear to get it out, so I already need a new arm.
6) I hope someone makes an aluminum front bulkhead. The stock one is too easily stripped.
7) Definitely getting the front aluminum ball stud mounts & aluminum rear toe block.
That's my rant. Have two more boxes of parts coming from A Main this week also, including electronics. My J Concepts body is here as well, and that will be getting custom paint soon.
Initial Building:
1) Manual (paper & online) are very vague. Every kit I've built in the past had a manual that explained certain steps or gave you instructions on how to setup the diff, or properly setup the shocks. This isn't my first kit, but for the first timer the instruction manual really needs some more, well, instructions.
2) Some bags are labeled, some aren't. Finding the right part for a few steps was slightly annoying.
3) The ball studs are very weak. I've broken two already. These two were the ones on the inner mounts for the front shock tower. Makes in impossible to get a real driver onto the stud because of the way the front tower is designed. Half of the ball on each one snapped off.
4) Turn buckles actually went together nicely. Enlarge the hole for each end and use some grease or oil. Works perfect.
5) Stock bearings for the front wheels seem really tight, and the wheels (no tires) only spin a few revolutions. One of the things to see progress after I get some track time on the car. Maybe they will loosen up.
6) All the hex nuts on the car don't fit any of my tools, except pliers. Also, the provided silver three-point hex tool doesn't work for anything on the car. No idea why it's in the kit.
7) I received Dark Blue front springs, Light blue rear springs.
8) Several parts on the front and rear end didn't line up at all. The servo mount blocks that slide into the side pods are very tight. I had to take apart the front steering linkage and install the servo first along with the bottom linkage plate to get things to finally go into place. In the rear, when installing the transmission, several holes on the bottom didn't line up until i loosened the side pods & toe plates.
9) There are a lot of plastic parts on this car that need to be stiffer, or replaced with carbon/CNC aluminum.
10) Not a single e-clip.
Still to come:
1) I don't know if it's me, but the gear for the top shaft has a lot of play in the transmission. There is a noticeable "tick" when moving the shaft forward & reverse before the rest of the transmission engages. Also, I don't like having the one bearing inside the transmission for the top shaft. I know there's one on the motor plate, but putting the transmission together really bothered me. Setup is RM3.
2) Transmission also has way too many screws. I understand why they are all there, but if there is a real issue with this top shaft thing, it's going to be a pain in the ass to get apart.
3) Waiting on Marcus @ RCShox to ship my pistons, so shocks aren't built yet. TSR bladders and foam coming too.
4) Akula & Tresrey is sending me all carbon stuff, but won't go on until I know how to handle the buggy and not break anything.
5) On accident I put one of the smaller hinge pins on the front inner arms and had to destroy the part the hinge pin sits in the rear to get it out, so I already need a new arm.
6) I hope someone makes an aluminum front bulkhead. The stock one is too easily stripped.
7) Definitely getting the front aluminum ball stud mounts & aluminum rear toe block.
That's my rant. Have two more boxes of parts coming from A Main this week also, including electronics. My J Concepts body is here as well, and that will be getting custom paint soon.
12-19-2011, 09:06 PM
#2943
your pistons shipped out today! priority so you should have them by the weekend. near the end of this video you will see my 210 in slomotion jumping and taking turns. if you watch closely you will notice that even on the double with the flat landing the car doesnt slap and its about the same amount of movement as the smaller jumps! thats the beauty of RCshox pistons when they are setup right! i also realized by watching in slo-mo that i need thicker fluid in the front. HD is great!!
http://www.youtube.com/user/Mantisworx?feature=mhee
http://www.youtube.com/user/Mantisworx?feature=mhee
12-19-2011, 10:31 PM
#2944
Dex 210 Week2
So after 2 weeks of running I have come to this understanding.
Shock springs have to go. Need to switch to Reds instead of the stock Lt Blues. They're meant for Mid motor. So is the manual, Use the Internet Manual. it's not so biased towards MM as the European Printed one.
Get several 5x8x3 MM Bearings. The bearing inside the Slipper Adj nut just blew and seems to be a known issue. And Finally Get a CF Steering rack. The stock one is the flimsiest piece and I blew it on the least little hard landing.
other than that, the car is awesome! looking for some set ups.
Shock springs have to go. Need to switch to Reds instead of the stock Lt Blues. They're meant for Mid motor. So is the manual, Use the Internet Manual. it's not so biased towards MM as the European Printed one.
Get several 5x8x3 MM Bearings. The bearing inside the Slipper Adj nut just blew and seems to be a known issue. And Finally Get a CF Steering rack. The stock one is the flimsiest piece and I blew it on the least little hard landing.
other than that, the car is awesome! looking for some set ups.
12-19-2011, 11:31 PM
#2945
Anyone know of a place that has the 210 body in stock or has one they want to sell?? Please PM me.
12-19-2011, 11:44 PM
#2946
Amains the only place I found and they are backordered on that cartoonish looking finisher body. Completely defeats the sleek look of a buggy. Even Team Durango doesn't have the reg ones. See what happens when we get new cars? ps. I need a new body too so let me know if you see em.
the Finnisher is sexy, baby!
12-20-2011, 12:42 AM
#2951
Car was really good at WC but I have a slight on power push. I started with 2,2 insert in the front hub then switched to the 3,1 front hub insert which I think would of got rid of the on power push but when I tried that set up the wheel rubs on the screw that keeps the hinge pin in place at full through... Did I do something wrong? HELP
12-20-2011, 01:37 AM
#2952
12-20-2011, 01:54 AM
#2955
9) There are a lot of plastic parts on this car that need to be stiffer, or replaced with carbon/CNC aluminum.
2) Transmission also has way too many screws. I understand why they are all there, but if there is a real issue with this top shaft thing, it's going to be a pain in the ass to get apart.
careful with the rear transmission case and rear top deck.. repeat screwing/unscrewing can easily strip out the soft plastic.
on the plus side, once everything is in i find it very very easy to take out the servo.. 2 screws and its out! no need to turn the truck upside down even!
2) Transmission also has way too many screws. I understand why they are all there, but if there is a real issue with this top shaft thing, it's going to be a pain in the ass to get apart.
careful with the rear transmission case and rear top deck.. repeat screwing/unscrewing can easily strip out the soft plastic.
on the plus side, once everything is in i find it very very easy to take out the servo.. 2 screws and its out! no need to turn the truck upside down even!