Schumacher Corner
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Originally Posted by BATT_MAN
King-G
Guys, I am recuperating from a lage dosage of PAIN medication and my brain i still out there...
I am not joking....
Isaac
Guys, I am recuperating from a lage dosage of PAIN medication and my brain i still out there...
I am not joking....
Isaac
Originally Posted by Skiddins
Ok, do you change the upper links much or mainly use the roll centre's?
Skiddins
Skiddins
More adjustments can be achieved by the position of the camber link, but you also have to take into consideration the position (height and angle) of the lower arm.
The RC is defined by the intersection of THREE POINTS. These points are defined by the UPPER LINK, THE A ARM, and the center contact patch of the tire. The intersection of these three lines defines the location of the RC.
As you can see ALL of them play an important part in chassis setup.
I attached a free hand drawing that shows how to find the RC
I hope this helps
Last edited by BATT_MAN; 03-22-2006 at 05:08 PM. Reason: spelling....
Originally Posted by Jon Kerr
I know what you mean. Been there.
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Originally Posted by BATT_MAN
Thanks John
Anyways, for a really good explanation of roll centers and general vehicle dynamics, go to this site. It's got a lot of stuff and some really good illustrations.
http://home.tiscali.be/be067749/58/
You may want to use a spell checker until the meds wear off.
I was kept asleep for 72 hours....
Heavy duty stuff....
The lines are not straight either....
Anyway, the site that John refers to is a GREAT introductory site.
If anyone is interested in more advanced force dynamics and chassis analysis info will be glad to point you to some excellent sources. The only downside is that they are written for engineers and it is all written with tons of equations (from diff to matrixes) But they are great sources.
Last edited by BATT_MAN; 03-22-2006 at 07:19 PM.
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john heres my set up if you cant read it let me know.
its my first time playing with the scanner also as u see i have shocking hand writing. thanks man pm me any suggestions.
thanks man
its my first time playing with the scanner also as u see i have shocking hand writing. thanks man pm me any suggestions.
thanks man
Originally Posted by aus jd 2703
john heres my set up if you cant read it let me know.
its my first time playing with the scanner also as u see i have shocking hand writing. thanks man pm me any suggestions.
thanks man
its my first time playing with the scanner also as u see i have shocking hand writing. thanks man pm me any suggestions.
thanks man
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I am buying a used mi2 with some ec parts. I am looking for a rubber setup for carpet. And are the arms for the mi2 and the ec the same?
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Originally Posted by BATT_MAN
NO JOKE...
I was kept asleep for 72 hours....
Heavy duty stuff....
The lines are not straight either....
Anyway, the site that John refers to is a GREAT introductory site.
If anyone is interested in more advanced force dynamics and chassis analysis info will be glad to point you to some excellent sources. The only downside is that they are written for engineers and it is all written with tons of equations (from diff to matrixes) But they are great sources.
I was kept asleep for 72 hours....
Heavy duty stuff....
The lines are not straight either....
Anyway, the site that John refers to is a GREAT introductory site.
If anyone is interested in more advanced force dynamics and chassis analysis info will be glad to point you to some excellent sources. The only downside is that they are written for engineers and it is all written with tons of equations (from diff to matrixes) But they are great sources.
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Originally Posted by aus jd 2703
john heres my set up if you cant read it let me know.
its my first time playing with the scanner also as u see i have shocking hand writing. thanks man pm me any suggestions.
thanks man
its my first time playing with the scanner also as u see i have shocking hand writing. thanks man pm me any suggestions.
thanks man
Originally Posted by roadrashracing
I am buying a used mi2 with some ec parts. I am looking for a rubber setup for carpet. And are the arms for the mi2 and the ec the same?
Mi2 EC Setups
I used Kevin Brunsdens Carpet Wars setup with the exception of a one way diff and it felt very good.
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Originally Posted by roadrashracing
I am buying a used mi2 with some ec parts. I am looking for a rubber setup for carpet. And are the arms for the mi2 and the ec the same?
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yeh the local pro at my track heavy (he's on once and awhile) said i spool is faster but also said you break more parts when u crash (which i do a lot as im new) so im a bit worried if a bought a spool should i upgrade my front drive shafts?? im running kit plastic ones also are the aluminium rear hubs any good they seem like a good idea as the take aways some toe? just trying tu under stand the car.
also does any one lock the front diff??
also do u remove the diff rings and thrust race or just the diff balls??
does any one run ceramic diff balls??
also does any one lock the front diff??
also do u remove the diff rings and thrust race or just the diff balls??
does any one run ceramic diff balls??
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Originally Posted by aus jd 2703
yeh the local pro at my track heavy (he's on once and awhile) said i spool is faster but also said you break more parts when u crash (which i do a lot as im new) so im a bit worried if a bought a spool should i upgrade my front drive shafts?? im running kit plastic ones also are the aluminium rear hubs any good they seem like a good idea as the take aways some toe? just trying tu under stand the car.
also does any one lock the front diff??
also do u remove the diff rings and thrust race or just the diff balls??
does any one run ceramic diff balls??
also does any one lock the front diff??
also do u remove the diff rings and thrust race or just the diff balls??
does any one run ceramic diff balls??
The alloy rear hubs are a good tuning option. I always liked to run them on the Mi2. We normally ran them with the 0º inserts in them with the alloy pivot blocks and that gave us the 2º rear toe that we usually run on asphalt. They also change the rear camber link geometry.
Originally Posted by aus jd 2703
yeh the local pro at my track heavy (he's on once and awhile) said i spool is faster but also said you break more parts when u crash (which i do a lot as im new) so im a bit worried if a bought a spool should i upgrade my front drive shafts?? im running kit plastic ones also are the aluminium rear hubs any good they seem like a good idea as the take aways some toe? just trying tu under stand the car.
also does any one lock the front diff??
also do u remove the diff rings and thrust race or just the diff balls??
does any one run ceramic diff balls??
also does any one lock the front diff??
also do u remove the diff rings and thrust race or just the diff balls??
does any one run ceramic diff balls??
A proper spool will be lighter and designed for the job but I tried the above before spending my money and it behaved the same.
I ran with plastic drive shafts for a couple of months before breaking one, but they willbe worth replaceing anyway.
Never tried ceramic diff balls, probably only worth getting if you have to replace the ones you have.