Schumacher Corner
#2056
Tech Initiate
Reedy Race
Are any of you guys going?
#2058
Tech Apprentice
hey guys I have seen and heard a lot about the roll center mod for the mission was wondering if you can tell me in detail how it works and what I will need to make it, also does this mod work on the rear of car. you can post here or e-mail me [email protected]
thanx guys for info
thanx guys for info
#2059
gfoster- The front roll center mod raises the front lower arm inner hinge pin to the same level as the rear. This will add mid and exit steering to the car. If you raise the rear, that will take the steering away. So, if we were to lower the rear, the car would get more steering. Just as the Losi guys are doing.
Two ways of raising the front roll center.
Trim a piece of chassis material for under the steering bellcrank/hinge pin mount and the front pivot block. This raises the front lower hinge pins 2 mm. Then you will have to trim the alloy servo saver tube 2 mm to clear the upper deck and remove the 2 mm plastic washers from the inner steering turnbuckle ball stud( use a short ball stud in its place).
The other way is to get the Fireblade rear alloy toe blocks, 0 and 3 degree. Use the 0 for the rear of the hinge pin and the 3 for the front. The holes in these blocks are offset, so fit them so that the holes are up. You will also have to cut the steering bellcrank/hinge pin mount off. This will maintian the same bellcrank geometry.
Hope this is clear enough. Good luck. It is a fun modification to do.
Two ways of raising the front roll center.
Trim a piece of chassis material for under the steering bellcrank/hinge pin mount and the front pivot block. This raises the front lower hinge pins 2 mm. Then you will have to trim the alloy servo saver tube 2 mm to clear the upper deck and remove the 2 mm plastic washers from the inner steering turnbuckle ball stud( use a short ball stud in its place).
The other way is to get the Fireblade rear alloy toe blocks, 0 and 3 degree. Use the 0 for the rear of the hinge pin and the 3 for the front. The holes in these blocks are offset, so fit them so that the holes are up. You will also have to cut the steering bellcrank/hinge pin mount off. This will maintian the same bellcrank geometry.
Hope this is clear enough. Good luck. It is a fun modification to do.
#2060
Tech Initiate
To all that are going GOOD LUCK at the Reedy race!
I wish I could go, but I promised the family a trip to Disney World.
Make Schumacher proud! 8)
I wish I could go, but I promised the family a trip to Disney World.
Make Schumacher proud! 8)
#2061
Tech Elite
iTrader: (7)
OK, Guys I need more steering from the apex of the turns on, I donot need anymore steering going into the turns. The Mission tuning guide is a little too ambigious for me, they tell you what the changes make, but not were on the track the changes happen. Where as my Losi XXX-S manual does, however on some issues the Schuie manual says the changes will do the exact opposite of what the losi does. I will post my current set-up as soon as I get home........
#2062
Tech Regular
iTrader: (2)
Phats: If I had the oneway in, that would be the case, but with the diff, the turn in is what I would rate as 'good'.
Damon: No problem and good luck...
GFoster: Be careful with the front blocks (if you use the Fireblade parts). They can pull through the chassis in a bad crash (just don't have any bad crashes...lol). Other than that, the raised roll center is pretty good. I use the raised plate now, however.
Impact: I'll offer some suggestions once I see your setup...
Damon: No problem and good luck...
GFoster: Be careful with the front blocks (if you use the Fireblade parts). They can pull through the chassis in a bad crash (just don't have any bad crashes...lol). Other than that, the raised roll center is pretty good. I use the raised plate now, however.
Impact: I'll offer some suggestions once I see your setup...
#2063
Tech Champion
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Hey guys when you make the front roll center mod with the Alum Fire Blade parts you will want to make a little brace that goes over the front two pices so you dont break the front of the chassis in a real hart hit. I will hopefully get some pic's of the brace that I have on my car over the weekend.
And good Luck to all the guys who where able to make it into the Reedy Race, do Schumacher proud and keep the streak alive in Stock well now its 19 turn.
And good Luck to all the guys who where able to make it into the Reedy Race, do Schumacher proud and keep the streak alive in Stock well now its 19 turn.
#2064
Kevin K., Do you have a pic of that front roll center mod with the brace?
Thanks,
Rob Love
Thanks,
Rob Love
#2065
Tech Adept
nice avatar jonski
#2066
Tech Champion
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Rob I will hopefully have it up by the weekend or just after.
#2068
Tech Elite
iTrader: (7)
My setup
Front
shocks-
55 wht. oil
no. 3 shuie 1 piece piston
gray spring
no. 2 on tower
no. 1 on arm
alloy hub carriers w/ lowball option
no. 1 inner chamber mount (upper)
0 deg. toe
0 deg. inboard toe
1 1/2 deg. chamber
3 on associated droop guage
Rear
shocks-
55 wht. oil
no. 3 shuie 1 piece piston
blue spring
no. 2 on tower
no. 1 on arm
alloy hub carriers w/ lowball option
3 deg. toe
0 deg. inboard toe
1 1/2 deg. chamber
3 on associated droop guage
For front caster I am using Yokomo caster clips which are a little different compared to Schuie units, one full clip and one half clip are the same thickness as 2 schuie full clips. I am using 1 small infront of the mount. I will measure this later once I get my guages out.
Tires-
CRC foams X-hard dual compound fronts (plaid) front
CRC foams X-hard fronts (purples) rear
Trinity Stratus
Fantom MVP
shocks-
55 wht. oil
no. 3 shuie 1 piece piston
gray spring
no. 2 on tower
no. 1 on arm
alloy hub carriers w/ lowball option
no. 1 inner chamber mount (upper)
0 deg. toe
0 deg. inboard toe
1 1/2 deg. chamber
3 on associated droop guage
Rear
shocks-
55 wht. oil
no. 3 shuie 1 piece piston
blue spring
no. 2 on tower
no. 1 on arm
alloy hub carriers w/ lowball option
3 deg. toe
0 deg. inboard toe
1 1/2 deg. chamber
3 on associated droop guage
For front caster I am using Yokomo caster clips which are a little different compared to Schuie units, one full clip and one half clip are the same thickness as 2 schuie full clips. I am using 1 small infront of the mount. I will measure this later once I get my guages out.
Tires-
CRC foams X-hard dual compound fronts (plaid) front
CRC foams X-hard fronts (purples) rear
Trinity Stratus
Fantom MVP
#2069
How do you think the mission is going to do at the worlds? I think they have a great chance of winning
#2070
Tech Elite
iTrader: (7)
well if yokomo doesn't hire half the racer in the world to basically run interferrence for a few of their drivers...... or maybe Losi will buy this worlds this year......... IF the drivers with THE BEST cars win we all know who will be celebrating!!!!!!!
.........AND it WON'T be a plastic car!!!!!!!
.........AND it WON'T be a plastic car!!!!!!!