centax clutch serpent 720
01-08-2010, 09:30 AM
#1
centax clutch serpent 720
Hello i have a serpent 720 and the centax clutch on it is giving me a hard time. The engine must revive up to a very high rpm for the clutch to engine.
My question is, Is there an aftermarket clutch from Werks or that i can use in my car?
Is a there a simplier aftermarket clutch for the serpent 720?
My question is, Is there an aftermarket clutch from Werks or that i can use in my car?
Is a there a simplier aftermarket clutch for the serpent 720?
01-08-2010, 09:37 AM
#2
Hello i have a serpent 720 and the centax clutch on it is giving me a hard time. The engine must revive up to a very high rpm for the clutch to engine.
My question is, Is there an aftermarket clutch from Werks or that i can use in my car?
Is a there a simplier aftermarket clutch for the serpent 720?
My question is, Is there an aftermarket clutch from Werks or that i can use in my car?
Is a there a simplier aftermarket clutch for the serpent 720?
Have you read these two articles? Glenn is an expert on setting up clutches.
http://www.serpent.com/news/10063/Bu...-3-Clutch.html
http://www.serpent.com/news/10534/Bu...-Clutches.html
01-08-2010, 10:24 AM
#3
Your problem is related with to much gap or to high springtension.
Because the clutchshoe wears off the gap is becomming bigger, once in a while you have to check this and fix it with the right amount of shims. Just set the gap to 0.5 to 0.6mm
A Centax is not difficuly but you do need to check it once in a while.
Other thing causing your problem is the thrustbearing. The ring with the balls (between the 2 steel discs) can get damaged an loosing balls causing a bigger gap.
Because the clutchshoe wears off the gap is becomming bigger, once in a while you have to check this and fix it with the right amount of shims. Just set the gap to 0.5 to 0.6mm
A Centax is not difficuly but you do need to check it once in a while.
Other thing causing your problem is the thrustbearing. The ring with the balls (between the 2 steel discs) can get damaged an loosing balls causing a bigger gap.
01-08-2010, 10:57 AM
#4
the gap and tool
Well recently i had my clutch professiona set, and it did not turn out to good.
my car would revive up to high rpms before the clutch would engage. I took to long and it seem like my engine would overheat because of it.
Now I install another engine. its the os .12tg. and its doing the same thing. I engine would get to high rpms before the clutch would engage. I loosen up the spring, and it still goes to a very high rpm. I feel that if I loosen the spring anymore, that it will come off.
Now as far as the clutch gap. I do not fully understand how to use that. I have the caliper to, a digital one, but I do not know how to use it properly. Should I try using a ruler instead.
Also does any other company sell shims that I can use on the clutch. Serpent are hard to could be in fort Lauderdale. So let me know if traxxas or mugen or hpi have the shims, or what size of dimension shims should I be looking for?
Next, if its not the load spring, whatelse you said could be worn? What is the the part number.
Now what the cluth does engage the car goes part fast. but its too fast because the engine has already revied up so high I can not control the car.
If my clutch shoes are worn, how do I close the clutch shoe gap? Where to do I put the shim?
my car would revive up to high rpms before the clutch would engage. I took to long and it seem like my engine would overheat because of it.
Now I install another engine. its the os .12tg. and its doing the same thing. I engine would get to high rpms before the clutch would engage. I loosen up the spring, and it still goes to a very high rpm. I feel that if I loosen the spring anymore, that it will come off.
Now as far as the clutch gap. I do not fully understand how to use that. I have the caliper to, a digital one, but I do not know how to use it properly. Should I try using a ruler instead.
Also does any other company sell shims that I can use on the clutch. Serpent are hard to could be in fort Lauderdale. So let me know if traxxas or mugen or hpi have the shims, or what size of dimension shims should I be looking for?
Next, if its not the load spring, whatelse you said could be worn? What is the the part number.
Now what the cluth does engage the car goes part fast. but its too fast because the engine has already revied up so high I can not control the car.
If my clutch shoes are worn, how do I close the clutch shoe gap? Where to do I put the shim?
Last edited by rlouis12; 01-08-2010 at 11:00 AM. Reason: more infor
01-08-2010, 04:26 PM
#5
Well recently i had my clutch professiona set, and it did not turn out to good.
my car would revive up to high rpms before the clutch would engage. I took to long and it seem like my engine would overheat because of it.
Now I install another engine. its the os .12tg. and its doing the same thing. I engine would get to high rpms before the clutch would engage. I loosen up the spring, and it still goes to a very high rpm. I feel that if I loosen the spring anymore, that it will come off.
Now as far as the clutch gap. I do not fully understand how to use that. I have the caliper to, a digital one, but I do not know how to use it properly. Should I try using a ruler instead.
Also does any other company sell shims that I can use on the clutch. Serpent are hard to could be in fort Lauderdale. So let me know if traxxas or mugen or hpi have the shims, or what size of dimension shims should I be looking for?
Next, if its not the load spring, whatelse you said could be worn? What is the the part number.
Now what the cluth does engage the car goes part fast. but its too fast because the engine has already revied up so high I can not control the car.
If my clutch shoes are worn, how do I close the clutch shoe gap? Where to do I put the shim?
my car would revive up to high rpms before the clutch would engage. I took to long and it seem like my engine would overheat because of it.
Now I install another engine. its the os .12tg. and its doing the same thing. I engine would get to high rpms before the clutch would engage. I loosen up the spring, and it still goes to a very high rpm. I feel that if I loosen the spring anymore, that it will come off.
Now as far as the clutch gap. I do not fully understand how to use that. I have the caliper to, a digital one, but I do not know how to use it properly. Should I try using a ruler instead.
Also does any other company sell shims that I can use on the clutch. Serpent are hard to could be in fort Lauderdale. So let me know if traxxas or mugen or hpi have the shims, or what size of dimension shims should I be looking for?
Next, if its not the load spring, whatelse you said could be worn? What is the the part number.
Now what the cluth does engage the car goes part fast. but its too fast because the engine has already revied up so high I can not control the car.
If my clutch shoes are worn, how do I close the clutch shoe gap? Where to do I put the shim?
You can also try adding a shim behind the colet so that you don't need too many shims to set the gap and end play. Please read very carefully and take your time setting up your clutch the right way makes a HUGE difference.
Hope this helps
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