Xray T1
#7861
Tech Apprentice
i know that, i'll already check it twice, but still the same.
but i will check it again this night.
thank anyway
any suggestion ??
but i will check it again this night.
thank anyway
any suggestion ??
#7863
Tech Apprentice
can you give me the web address or anything where i can ask the xray?
#7865
Tech Apprentice
thank
#7866
Originally posted by lrcdjcb112
Hello,
Can you explain all that you know about roll centers?
Comments from anyone is welcomed...I remembered reading an article on it but I confused myself and did not really get it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Hello,
Can you explain all that you know about roll centers?
Comments from anyone is welcomed...I remembered reading an article on it but I confused myself and did not really get it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Ok, putting spacers under the camberlinks makes them at a higher angle as compared to where they are connected to the shock towers. This makes the car roll faster because it's roll center has been raised (someone correct me if I'm wrong about it being lowered or raised). This means that the car will shift to lean to its side in corners faster than if no spacers were added, going to whatever you have it's camber set to.
I hope this Kinda makes sense...just try to visualize it!
-Kevin
P.S. If anyone can clear this up or add to it, PLEASE DO!
#7867
Okay, I thought I understood the castor discussion, until I read the post about using 0 degree blocks with a one-way.
Now, I know this all depends on the track surface, but won't going from the stock (3 degree) blocks to the 0 degree blocks provide less steering mid corner? And since a one-way will provide more steering off power, how will you gain steering on exit (on power)? Isn't the rule of thumb, that less caster = less steering (with considerations for camber of course)?
Or, is it that since less caster = less steering, then it serves to "calm" the effects of a one-way?
Or is it...oh, look I've gone cross-eyed...
LOL
Any clarification would be appreciated.
Cheers.
Now, I know this all depends on the track surface, but won't going from the stock (3 degree) blocks to the 0 degree blocks provide less steering mid corner? And since a one-way will provide more steering off power, how will you gain steering on exit (on power)? Isn't the rule of thumb, that less caster = less steering (with considerations for camber of course)?
Or, is it that since less caster = less steering, then it serves to "calm" the effects of a one-way?
Or is it...oh, look I've gone cross-eyed...
LOL
Any clarification would be appreciated.
Cheers.
#7868
Tech Adept
Kaizen,
Keep in mind this is just my opinion and what I've experienced.
Less caster seems to make the car more aggressive during initial steering input i.e. more twitchy feeling. It also seems to give less overall steering, especially mid-corner and corner exit.
However, many people are finding with the Xray that the zero degree blocks (which are aluminum) are giving them more steering all around due to the fact they flex much less than the composite C- hubs.
Keep in mind this is just my opinion and what I've experienced.
Less caster seems to make the car more aggressive during initial steering input i.e. more twitchy feeling. It also seems to give less overall steering, especially mid-corner and corner exit.
However, many people are finding with the Xray that the zero degree blocks (which are aluminum) are giving them more steering all around due to the fact they flex much less than the composite C- hubs.
#7869
Originally posted by etzkev
This is very hard to explain, but I'll try my best.
Ok, putting spacers under the camberlinks makes them at a higher angle as compared to where they are connected to the shock towers. This makes the car roll faster because it's roll center has been raised (someone correct me if I'm wrong about it being lowered or raised). This means that the car will shift to lean to its side in corners faster than if no spacers were added, going to whatever you have it's camber set to.
I hope this Kinda makes sense...just try to visualize it!
-Kevin
P.S. If anyone can clear this up or add to it, PLEASE DO!
This is very hard to explain, but I'll try my best.
Ok, putting spacers under the camberlinks makes them at a higher angle as compared to where they are connected to the shock towers. This makes the car roll faster because it's roll center has been raised (someone correct me if I'm wrong about it being lowered or raised). This means that the car will shift to lean to its side in corners faster than if no spacers were added, going to whatever you have it's camber set to.
I hope this Kinda makes sense...just try to visualize it!
-Kevin
P.S. If anyone can clear this up or add to it, PLEASE DO!
In other words, you are correct about it being "raised" or a higher roll center.
#7870
Originally posted by Ozwald Bates
Kaizen,
Keep in mind this is just my opinion and what I've experienced.
Less caster seems to make the car more aggressive during initial steering input i.e. more twitchy feeling. It also seems to give less overall steering, especially mid-corner and corner exit.
However, many people are finding with the Xray that the zero degree blocks (which are aluminum) are giving them more steering all around due to the fact they flex much less than the composite C- hubs.
Kaizen,
Keep in mind this is just my opinion and what I've experienced.
Less caster seems to make the car more aggressive during initial steering input i.e. more twitchy feeling. It also seems to give less overall steering, especially mid-corner and corner exit.
However, many people are finding with the Xray that the zero degree blocks (which are aluminum) are giving them more steering all around due to the fact they flex much less than the composite C- hubs.
Anyone experimenting with the 3 or 6 degree aluminum castor blocks? Even more steering throughout cornering range? Oversteer?
#7871
Tech Adept
hey guys what should the lenght of the shocks be fully extended. for some reason i can not find it in the instru. manu. thanks
#7872
Originally posted by Wap
hey guys what should the lenght of the shocks be fully extended. for some reason i can not find it in the instru. manu. thanks
hey guys what should the lenght of the shocks be fully extended. for some reason i can not find it in the instru. manu. thanks
#7873
Tech Adept
thanks i can't get my ride height under 5 in the front or the back.
#7874
Tech Adept
also kaizen, is that 62.5 mm from the center of the hole or from the very top of the shock to the very bottom. thanks
#7875
Wap, your problem has happened to many people, so check that the things that hold the spring onto the bottom of the shaft and make sure that they are pushed down all the way (forgot what they are called...haha).
-Kevin
-Kevin