LOSI XXX-S, Tips and Tricks, Open Mod, etc
#466
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Thanks Grauwulf for finding and following. Would you like me to put you down for a couple belts? Things still seem to be good on the belt front. What sort of motors are you guys running? I'm going to swap in a brushless XeRun setup to try and punish the belt I put it... see if it holds up. Everyone here still racing? List btw is still:
1. edm rob-4
2. skater-deez1-4 or more...price dependent
3. vabroom - 4 + tensioner
4. cdlowe30907- 2 or 4
5. farley1 - 3
6. rctrackman - 4
7. undying - 2
8. rubbaneck - 2
9. 429racer - 2
10. skid plate - 2
11. boostedti - ?
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14.
15.
1. edm rob-4
2. skater-deez1-4 or more...price dependent
3. vabroom - 4 + tensioner
4. cdlowe30907- 2 or 4
5. farley1 - 3
6. rctrackman - 4
7. undying - 2
8. rubbaneck - 2
9. 429racer - 2
10. skid plate - 2
11. boostedti - ?
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13.
14.
15.
#467
Still racing with others here.
Probably have 6 to 10 of us that all have XXXS's.
I run against Rubbaneck every chance we can.
Dirt rally.
There are probably going to be more interested in belts from this group also.
Thanks again.
Probably have 6 to 10 of us that all have XXXS's.
I run against Rubbaneck every chance we can.
Dirt rally.
There are probably going to be more interested in belts from this group also.
Thanks again.
#470
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I mainly mean that it doesn't roll super freely like some of the other chassis I've had before. It could be old bearings and the tightness of the belt. But, I just want to be honest with people. Expect some braking effect on your driveline to an extent due to the tension that exists in the system. I'm hoping my tests with the brushless setup show me that it can run well just like they did in my Street Weapon. Those freed up after several runs and were virtually bulletproof. I only put in new belts when I had the thing apart for diff service which was 1 time per season (3 months)... just so I wouldn't have to do it at the track.
#471
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I mainly mean that it doesn't roll super freely like some of the other chassis I've had before. It could be old bearings and the tightness of the belt. But, I just want to be honest with people. Expect some braking effect on your driveline to an extent due to the tension that exists in the system. I'm hoping my tests with the brushless setup show me that it can run well just like they did in my Street Weapon. Those freed up after several runs and were virtually bulletproof. I only put in new belts when I had the thing apart for diff service which was 1 time per season (3 months)... just so I wouldn't have to do it at the track.
#473
Just need some clarification since it's been awhile since i had to think about belts. Earlier you mentioned the stock HD belt being 259t. This longer belt is 261t. Does anyone who still has an HD tensioner know if we have that much tension adjustment to make up for the extra length ?? Or does the tensioner offer the possibility of additional motion to make up for it if we had an additional hole for the set screw? Hope that makes sense.
I'm concerned about the current belt having to much tension for most practical uses. As i mentioned earlier, with lower powered cars (25.5,21.5) belt tension needs to be fairly loose or the drivetrain simply has to much drag. At least in my experience.
I'm concerned about the current belt having to much tension for most practical uses. As i mentioned earlier, with lower powered cars (25.5,21.5) belt tension needs to be fairly loose or the drivetrain simply has to much drag. At least in my experience.
Last edited by rctrackman; 10-26-2013 at 09:11 AM.
#474
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Just need some clarification since it's been awhile since i had to think about belts. Earlier you mentioned the stock HD belt being 259t. This longer belt is 261t. Does anyone who still has an HD tensioner know if we have that much tension adjustment to make up for the extra length ?? Or does the tensioner offer the possibility of additional motion to make up for it if we had an additional hole for the set screw? Hope that makes sense.
I'm concerned about the current belt having to much tension for most practical uses. As i mentioned earlier, with lower powered cars (25.5,21.5) belt tension needs to be fairly loose or the drivetrain simply has to much drag. At least in my experience.
I'm concerned about the current belt having to much tension for most practical uses. As i mentioned earlier, with lower powered cars (25.5,21.5) belt tension needs to be fairly loose or the drivetrain simply has to much drag. At least in my experience.
#475
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Just need some clarification since it's been awhile since i had to think about belts. Earlier you mentioned the stock HD belt being 259t. This longer belt is 261t. Does anyone who still has an HD tensioner know if we have that much tension adjustment to make up for the extra length ?? Or does the tensioner offer the possibility of additional motion to make up for it if we had an additional hole for the set screw? Hope that makes sense.
I'm concerned about the current belt having to much tension for most practical uses. As i mentioned earlier, with lower powered cars (25.5,21.5) belt tension needs to be fairly loose or the drivetrain simply has to much drag. At least in my experience.
I'm concerned about the current belt having to much tension for most practical uses. As i mentioned earlier, with lower powered cars (25.5,21.5) belt tension needs to be fairly loose or the drivetrain simply has to much drag. At least in my experience.
I personally would be willing to try one of these than buy one of the super tight looking ones.
Skaterdeez might be sending me an HD tensioner to try with a longer belt, but I think the belts should be good once they are run a few times. They just aren't loose like the stock belts because the teeth are tougher and harder with less flex due to the kevlar in the belt. I have the option of trying to get 256t belts but they are from a completely different contact who may add to the cost. I'm not sure yet. I've been trying to keep a consistent supplier and belt maker over the years so I know what I'm getting 100% of the time.
#476
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Update: I put a mild Leopard brushless motor I had laying around in the car WITH stock tensioner and the 252 tooth belt I had been experimenting on. Without having to cut every other tooth or modifying the belt, it easily went out and drove well. After making some adjustments to the gear mesh, I figured out the previous brushed motor installed by the previous owner was simply too tight and draggy. When I put the brushless motor in and reset the mesh as well as adjusted the belt out slightly (after the chassis modification) the car really came alive. It took all the abuse I could throw at it and rolled extrememly well compared to what it was previously. I guess that's what I get for using someone's shelf queen that hasn't been sorted out in ages. Belt looks good and the car is rolling freely now. It ran so well, I was able to get a few high speed runs going until I managed to hit a car on the street (my fault). I'm pretty happy with them so far. One more week of testing and I'll put in a big order for you guys. I just want to be 100% certain they'll work well for you guys minus the small chassis mod. Those just joining us, the chassis had to have the tensioner adjustment slot cut upward towards the top of the chassis so that the screw can be inserted properly without the belt being too tight. Belts have kevlar re-inforcement so they aren't stretchy quite like stock belts are.
#478
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It definitely was fun. Would have been more fun had I put the right remote on it. I made the mistake of using a cheap transmitter with no ability to reverse the steering... hence the hit car. Other than that, damn was the car responsive. Wish I would have had one when I raced VTA... I really like this thing.
#479
Great news Josh, can't wait to play again!
#480
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1. edm rob-4
2. skater-deez1-4 or more...price dependent
3. vabroom - 4 + tensioner
4. cdlowe30907- 2 or 4
5. farley1 - 3
6. rctrackman - 4
7. undying - 2
8. rubbaneck - 2
9. 429racer - 2
10. skid plate - 2
11. boostedti - 2
12. js600-2
13. sutman9872-2
14. Teamgimpy72- ?
15.
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2. skater-deez1-4 or more...price dependent
3. vabroom - 4 + tensioner
4. cdlowe30907- 2 or 4
5. farley1 - 3
6. rctrackman - 4
7. undying - 2
8. rubbaneck - 2
9. 429racer - 2
10. skid plate - 2
11. boostedti - 2
12. js600-2
13. sutman9872-2
14. Teamgimpy72- ?
15.
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Last edited by jhwnissan; 10-29-2013 at 05:37 AM. Reason: More people wanting belts.