Team Magic G4RS 2009
#1351
Tech Master
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Setup
Here is my setup from our 2nd race of our 8 race series here in the Sunshine State an here we go.
(Fort Myers setup)
Track Conditions
Surface-(Smooth)
Size-(Med)
Traction-(High)
Tire Wear (Low)
Front Sus
Track Width: 198mm
Anti-Roll Bar: 0 (using the front bar from K-factory)
Diff.: 300,000 X-ray
Toe Angle:1.5
Front Camber: L-2 R-2
Front Ride Height:5.5mm
Droop:3mm
Caster:3mm
Offset:0
Tire:
Manufacture:Capricorn
Shore:L37 R35
Shocks
Oil:600 wt
Piston:2hole 1.1mm (Kyosho Evolva front shocks)
Spring:X-Ray Pinks
Ackermann:B
Rear Sus
Track Width:199mm
Anti-Roll Bar:0 (used the new rear bar from Kfactory)
Diff:80,000
Toe Angle:-2.5
Rear Camber:L-4.5 R-4.0
RideHeight:6mm
Droop:4mm
Tire
Manufacture:Capricorn
Shore:L45-R42
Shocks
Oil: 600wt
Piston:2hole 1.1mm(Kyosho Evolva rear shocks)
Spring:X-ray Pinks
Body:Stratus 3.1
Note: this is the setup a ran in the A-final car was dialed
Gearing:
16/63
22/56
Engine:
Murnan RbM3/Pipe Novaroosi 2601/with short header
Fuel:J-tech 16%
Plug:#7 Novaroosi
(Fort Myers setup)
Track Conditions
Surface-(Smooth)
Size-(Med)
Traction-(High)
Tire Wear (Low)
Front Sus
Track Width: 198mm
Anti-Roll Bar: 0 (using the front bar from K-factory)
Diff.: 300,000 X-ray
Toe Angle:1.5
Front Camber: L-2 R-2
Front Ride Height:5.5mm
Droop:3mm
Caster:3mm
Offset:0
Tire:
Manufacture:Capricorn
Shore:L37 R35
Shocks
Oil:600 wt
Piston:2hole 1.1mm (Kyosho Evolva front shocks)
Spring:X-Ray Pinks
Ackermann:B
Rear Sus
Track Width:199mm
Anti-Roll Bar:0 (used the new rear bar from Kfactory)
Diff:80,000
Toe Angle:-2.5
Rear Camber:L-4.5 R-4.0
RideHeight:6mm
Droop:4mm
Tire
Manufacture:Capricorn
Shore:L45-R42
Shocks
Oil: 600wt
Piston:2hole 1.1mm(Kyosho Evolva rear shocks)
Spring:X-ray Pinks
Body:Stratus 3.1
Note: this is the setup a ran in the A-final car was dialed
Gearing:
16/63
22/56
Engine:
Murnan RbM3/Pipe Novaroosi 2601/with short header
Fuel:J-tech 16%
Plug:#7 Novaroosi
Last edited by impalabob64; 10-12-2010 at 12:05 PM.
#1352
Interesting setup
Here is my setup from our 2nd race of our 8 race series here in the Sunshine State an here we go.
(Fort Myers setup)
Track Conditions
Surface-(Smooth)
Size-(Med)
Traction-(High)
Tire Wear (Low)
Front Sus
Track Width: 198mm
Anti-Roll Bar: 0 (using the front bar from K-factory)
Diff.: 300,000 X-ray
Toe Angle:1.5
Front Camber: L-2 R-2
Front Ride Height:5.5mm
Droop:3mm
Caster:3mm
Offset:0
Tire:
Manufacture:Capricorn
Shore:L37 R35
Shocks
Oil:600 wt
Piston:2hole 1.1mm (Kyosho Evolva front shocks)
Spring:X-Ray Pinks
Ackermann:B
Rear Sus
Track Width:199mm
Anti-Roll Bar:0 (used the new rear bar from Kfactory)
Diff:80,000
Toe Angle:-2.5
Rear Camber:L-4.5 R-4.0
RideHeight:6mm
Droop:4mm
Tire
Manufacture:Capricorn
Shore:L45-R42
Shocks
Oil: 600wt
Piston:2hole 1.1mm(Kyosho Evolva rear shocks)
Spring:X-ray Pinks
Body:Stratus 3.1
Note: this is the setup a ran in the A-final car was dialed
(Fort Myers setup)
Track Conditions
Surface-(Smooth)
Size-(Med)
Traction-(High)
Tire Wear (Low)
Front Sus
Track Width: 198mm
Anti-Roll Bar: 0 (using the front bar from K-factory)
Diff.: 300,000 X-ray
Toe Angle:1.5
Front Camber: L-2 R-2
Front Ride Height:5.5mm
Droop:3mm
Caster:3mm
Offset:0
Tire:
Manufacture:Capricorn
Shore:L37 R35
Shocks
Oil:600 wt
Piston:2hole 1.1mm (Kyosho Evolva front shocks)
Spring:X-Ray Pinks
Ackermann:B
Rear Sus
Track Width:199mm
Anti-Roll Bar:0 (used the new rear bar from Kfactory)
Diff:80,000
Toe Angle:-2.5
Rear Camber:L-4.5 R-4.0
RideHeight:6mm
Droop:4mm
Tire
Manufacture:Capricorn
Shore:L45-R42
Shocks
Oil: 600wt
Piston:2hole 1.1mm(Kyosho Evolva rear shocks)
Spring:X-ray Pinks
Body:Stratus 3.1
Note: this is the setup a ran in the A-final car was dialed
A-main.. sweet!
h
#1354
Heya L
So as you drop the shore to compensate for the tyre wear, does chassis configuration change a lot or a little based on the tyre differences. Trying to get my head around whether tyre shore affects the chassis radically. Also notices same springs front rear, Ive been testing this and seem to get better results. Perhaps its more consistent and easier
#1355
Tech Master
iTrader: (2)
Hey Blis
I had the shocks an just figured would give them a try, an really was happy with overall performance ,an no leaking also with the heavy oil setup i can run small tires an wont really have to worry about the chassie bottoming out, learned that from a world class pro driver ,i had asked him the same ? an been doing it ever since.Also the kyosho shocks i can use x-ray,mugen,serpent or kyosho springs in which all have different spring rate so have more options you know.(As always a drivers preference)this stuff i have been testing for awhile.
#1356
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Landsborough, Queensland, Australia.
Posts: 2,142
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
I've been trying to find XRay pink springs to see what they are without success, what are they? http://www.rcwelt.com/Diverses/Unive...20Tabelle1.doc
Kindest regards,
Lars.
#1357
Tech Master
iTrader: (12)
So as you drop the shore to compensate for the tyre wear, does chassis configuration change a lot or a little based on the tyre differences. Trying to get my head around whether tyre shore affects the chassis radically. Also notices same springs front rear, Ive been testing this and seem to get better results. Perhaps its more consistent and easier
You'll generally find that once the track cleans up and you have a nice black line , the tyre shore "choice" really does not have quite as massive an effect on grip.
i.e. the harder tyre will grip almost as well as the softer tyre. BUT the wear rate does change, so in the interests of keeping the same size tyres (or as close as possible ) for the duration of a long final , you can use different shores, which will have different wear rates.
Lars
If you want to try GTRMX's setup , I have 2 beautiful G4RS 09's sitting in my garage that you can have for a great price
#1358
Tech Master
iTrader: (2)
try
I seem to remember that some of the top drivers at the Brendale 1/10 scale worlds ran different shore tires left to right. The setup in the file insert for an G4RS 09 has same fronts and different rears. Attachment 653607 We probably should have tried it at Littlehampton this year. The wear on the left seemed exceptional there.
I've been trying to find XRay pink springs to see what they are without success, what are they? http://www.rcwelt.com/Diverses/Unive...20Tabelle1.doc
Kindest regards,
Lars.
I've been trying to find XRay pink springs to see what they are without success, what are they? http://www.rcwelt.com/Diverses/Unive...20Tabelle1.doc
Kindest regards,
Lars.
#1359
I had the shocks an just figured would give them a try, an really was happy with overall performance ,an no leaking also with the heavy oil setup i can run small tires an wont really have to worry about the chassie bottoming out, learned that from a world class pro driver ,i had asked him the same ? an been doing it ever since.Also the kyosho shocks i can use x-ray,mugen,serpent or kyosho springs in which all have different spring rate so have more options you know.(As always a drivers preference)this stuff i have been testing for awhile.
Another similarity were the capricorn tyres, I rate them highly though everyone using them had to file the rears narrower on the lathe as they were 31mm wide.
Keep up the good work Bob, A-mains suit you!!
#1360
2010 Kraceway U.S. Open Championship
Bobby get that G4 ready & you can also ask Bobby for his set up as well
November will be the place to race especially with perfect weather
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November will be the place to race especially with perfect weather
Paypal payment option available www.kissrcraceway.com
#1361
Tech Elite
iTrader: (13)
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Landsborough, Queensland, Australia.
Posts: 2,142
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Harry ,
You'll generally find that once the track cleans up and you have a nice black line , the tyre shore "choice" really does not have quite as massive an effect on grip.
i.e. the harder tyre will grip almost as well as the softer tyre. BUT the wear rate does change, so in the interests of keeping the same size tyres (or as close as possible ) for the duration of a long final , you can use different shores, which will have different wear rates.
Lars
If you want to try GTRMX's setup , I have 2 beautiful G4RS 09's sitting in my garage that you can have for a great price
You'll generally find that once the track cleans up and you have a nice black line , the tyre shore "choice" really does not have quite as massive an effect on grip.
i.e. the harder tyre will grip almost as well as the softer tyre. BUT the wear rate does change, so in the interests of keeping the same size tyres (or as close as possible ) for the duration of a long final , you can use different shores, which will have different wear rates.
Lars
If you want to try GTRMX's setup , I have 2 beautiful G4RS 09's sitting in my garage that you can have for a great price
Many thanks for your help at the Nats, we learnt a lot from it. I'm sure that we'll have a much better and more reliable car from now.
Kindest regards,
Lars.
#1362
Tech Master
iTrader: (18)
well i got my g4rs 09 now thanks to randy im very happy with this car and cant wait to get it running
i just want some input on servos to run i was thinking about running 2
Savox SC-1251MG low profile i want to keep this car light and i dont want to run my old jr z8800s
and for bodys i was going to run protoform p37-n body has anyone run this body
i just want some input on servos to run i was thinking about running 2
Savox SC-1251MG low profile i want to keep this car light and i dont want to run my old jr z8800s
and for bodys i was going to run protoform p37-n body has anyone run this body
#1365
Tech Master
iTrader: (2)
bodies
well i got my g4rs 09 now thanks to randy im very happy with this car and cant wait to get it running
i just want some input on servos to run i was thinking about running 2
Savox SC-1251MG low profile i want to keep this car light and i dont want to run my old jr z8800s
and for bodys i was going to run protoform p37-n body has anyone run this body
i just want some input on servos to run i was thinking about running 2
Savox SC-1251MG low profile i want to keep this car light and i dont want to run my old jr z8800s
and for bodys i was going to run protoform p37-n body has anyone run this body
Chevy,Stratus,Rs4 those would be the bodies i would suggest.