Calling Losi 8ight B Racers What are you running?
11-14-2008, 10:01 AM
#16
hub spacers 2 in front 2 in back??
we had this exact conversation at wilkes last weekend.....one guy said shortening the wheelbase puts the rear tires up under the car more and would produce more rear traction(easyer to drive).......but the 2.0 manual says lengthening the wheelbase would make the car more stable......so im not positive.....i run my hubs all the way back...spacers in the front of the hub.....maybee some of the other guys that have been responding can shed some light.......
from 8 1.0 manual
Wheel Base: Shorter wheelbase (spacers behind the rear hubs) increases on-power traction, rear weight transfer, and has more off-power
steering. Shorter wheelbase is better on tight or slick tracks. Longer wheelbase (spacers in front of the rear hubs) decreases off-power steering.
Longer wheelbase is more stable, better in bumps, and has more on-power steering.
if the track is dry slick you may want to try it both ways to see what suits you best
from 8 1.0 manual
Wheel Base: Shorter wheelbase (spacers behind the rear hubs) increases on-power traction, rear weight transfer, and has more off-power
steering. Shorter wheelbase is better on tight or slick tracks. Longer wheelbase (spacers in front of the rear hubs) decreases off-power steering.
Longer wheelbase is more stable, better in bumps, and has more on-power steering.
if the track is dry slick you may want to try it both ways to see what suits you best
Yeah it dosent make sence to me, like you said the 2.0 is longer. I would think that spacers in front, longer wheel base would be more stable and eaiser to drive, on the Losi page the stable easy to drive set-up say to use 2 spacers behind the hub???
I would really like to hear from someone that has tried both and can explain the difference.
11-14-2008, 10:55 AM
#17
a longer wheel base gives you more on throttle steering and less off power
a longer wheel base will rotate less in tight corners, but more in long sweeping corners
shorter gives the opposite
a short wheelbase will help the car rotate more in 180s and tight corners
usually people complain about the losi being loose on throttle or coming out of corners, which is why moving the hubs forward can help people with this.
A longer wheel base on a long sweeping track is better
(nitropit , the farm)
a shorter wheel base on tight technical tracks are better
a longer wheel base will rotate less in tight corners, but more in long sweeping corners
shorter gives the opposite
a short wheelbase will help the car rotate more in 180s and tight corners
usually people complain about the losi being loose on throttle or coming out of corners, which is why moving the hubs forward can help people with this.
A longer wheel base on a long sweeping track is better
(nitropit , the farm)
a shorter wheel base on tight technical tracks are better
11-14-2008, 12:59 PM
#19
Whats up Rob? Put Truhe's setup on the car and go from there. I usually only make small changes to the car at a time and I only will change one thing at a time and then try that.
Main thing with that car is to make sure your ride height is correct. If you have to run a little higher or lower just make sure that the car has a lower front end. If not the handling of the car will be severly altered. Always reset your ride height after changing tires as well. From wholeshots to crimefighters will be around a 4mm difference. Then if your using one of the newer rims on the market vs one of the older rims (Old being a few months ago) you can add another 1-4mm of ride height difference. You can really get messed up here.
Also, always be sure to check your droop. It changes.
Main thing with that car is to make sure your ride height is correct. If you have to run a little higher or lower just make sure that the car has a lower front end. If not the handling of the car will be severly altered. Always reset your ride height after changing tires as well. From wholeshots to crimefighters will be around a 4mm difference. Then if your using one of the newer rims on the market vs one of the older rims (Old being a few months ago) you can add another 1-4mm of ride height difference. You can really get messed up here.
Also, always be sure to check your droop. It changes.
11-14-2008, 02:04 PM
#20
Whats up Rob? Put Truhe's setup on the car and go from there. I usually only make small changes to the car at a time and I only will change one thing at a time and then try that.
Main thing with that car is to make sure your ride height is correct. If you have to run a little higher or lower just make sure that the car has a lower front end. If not the handling of the car will be severly altered. Always reset your ride height after changing tires as well. From wholeshots to crimefighters will be around a 4mm difference. Then if your using one of the newer rims on the market vs one of the older rims (Old being a few months ago) you can add another 1-4mm of ride height difference. You can really get messed up here.
Also, always be sure to check your droop. It changes.
Main thing with that car is to make sure your ride height is correct. If you have to run a little higher or lower just make sure that the car has a lower front end. If not the handling of the car will be severly altered. Always reset your ride height after changing tires as well. From wholeshots to crimefighters will be around a 4mm difference. Then if your using one of the newer rims on the market vs one of the older rims (Old being a few months ago) you can add another 1-4mm of ride height difference. You can really get messed up here.
Also, always be sure to check your droop. It changes.
11-14-2008, 02:46 PM
#21
Tech Addict
When I first saw this topic, I thought ohhh man this one will be busy! Half of all racers in the world are on Losi's B-Team.... LOL!
JK!
JK!
11-14-2008, 04:44 PM
#22
AE
James, didn't you just get picked up by X-Ray?
11-14-2008, 08:54 PM
#23
Links to losi tuning
a longer wheel base gives you more on throttle steering and less off power
a longer wheel base will rotate less in tight corners, but more in long sweeping corners
shorter gives the opposite
a short wheelbase will help the car rotate more in 180s and tight corners
usually people complain about the losi being loose on throttle or coming out of corners, which is why moving the hubs forward can help people with this.
A longer wheel base on a long sweeping track is better
(nitropit , the farm)
a shorter wheel base on tight technical tracks are better
a longer wheel base will rotate less in tight corners, but more in long sweeping corners
shorter gives the opposite
a short wheelbase will help the car rotate more in 180s and tight corners
usually people complain about the losi being loose on throttle or coming out of corners, which is why moving the hubs forward can help people with this.
A longer wheel base on a long sweeping track is better
(nitropit , the farm)
a shorter wheel base on tight technical tracks are better
I found this page on Losi 8 tuning I thought it was solid reading
http://www.rcrcr.com/file/8th%20scal...g%20manual.pdf
Does anyone have any links to forums or pages that have some discussion on suspension tuning the Losi 8ight B
If everyone give ups 1 of the favorite threads, links, forums or pages it would help us rookies out a lot.
No Thanks to the Acer Racings Ad in the upper left of page, that chicks ass in the little black shorts is really distracting. I may have to go punch the clown.
11-16-2008, 12:52 PM
#24
Tech Addict
11-16-2008, 02:22 PM
#25
this is what im runnin, I just Started Running This setup this weekend and it was the first time i was in the Amain and i finished 5th. before this i was always in the Bmain placing 3rd to 5th
Diff
F/c/r
5000/7000/2000
Shocks
F/R
40/25
Tires
F/R
Crimefighters/Bowties
Stock Gearing
Mach 427 Motor(stock)
Diff
F/c/r
5000/7000/2000
Shocks
F/R
40/25
Tires
F/R
Crimefighters/Bowties
Stock Gearing
Mach 427 Motor(stock)
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