1/10 R/C F1's...Pics, Discussions, Whatever...
#7126
Tech Adept
I was looking for how much it'd take to transform my f104w to a narrow. Figure for that amount I may as well just get an fgx. What site sells them for the least?
#7127
Tech Master
iTrader: (7)
BTW my last phone (Motorola) had NO instructions supplied at all - had to look them up on the net. More and more consumer electronics are placing very basic instructions in the box and anything technical or detailed needs to be looked up on the net. In comparison, RC manuals are brilliant.
As for switching to Torx screws I'd rather be forced to try and use my teeth. My partner owns a Renault and the thing is FULL of Torx screws and its a nightmare to work on, and that's WITH a full compliment of bits and drivers to use.
#7129
Tech Apprentice
#7130
#7131
One thing I learned last month was that Japanese phillips screws (like what comes with most of our cars) are different than our standard. They have was is called JIS screws or "Japanese Industrial Standard." That why we often strip them out using our standard Stanley or Craftsman phillips screwdrivers. I learned this from a motorcycle mechanic.
http://www.amazon.com/Hozan-JIS-4-JI...crewdriver+set
What you need is a set of JIS screwdrivers like the above link.
Or, the screwdriver that you can buy from Team Associated, for example, is a JIS. You've probably seen it at the hobbyshop for like $12, and thought, "are they joking?" But, that's why its there. I finally bought one. Haven't stripped a phillips screw since.
Here's the Associated one:
http://www.teamassociated.com/parts/details/1553/
http://www.amazon.com/Hozan-JIS-4-JI...crewdriver+set
What you need is a set of JIS screwdrivers like the above link.
Or, the screwdriver that you can buy from Team Associated, for example, is a JIS. You've probably seen it at the hobbyshop for like $12, and thought, "are they joking?" But, that's why its there. I finally bought one. Haven't stripped a phillips screw since.
Here's the Associated one:
http://www.teamassociated.com/parts/details/1553/
#7132
"What do you get when you cross the F1 class with the Mini Cooper class?"
#7133
Tech Master
iTrader: (41)
I have those screwdrivers also. However, I prefer the hex drivers. The hex head screws are much less likely to strip for repeated use. And there is no question which size driver is the one to use while Phillips heads can take the wrong size driver and still work while it slowly gets worn out.
#7134
Tech Master
A little rant...
I have built a 3Racing Sakura FGX, Tamiya F104 V2 and HPI Formula Ten this past two weeks and I`m left with a few questions.
1. Why havent manuals gotten better since the 80`s?
Poor drawings with incredibly tiny writing, Some kits not portioned out in sensible stages, especially the Tamiya kit. You pretty much have to open everthing at once! It`s 2013 I expect colour pictures and even a step by step build video on the manufacturers web page. Just imagine if your PC, phone or microwave came with equally crappy user manuals. And as for Tamiya, what`s up with not supplying the body shell and wing with the kit?
I have built a 3Racing Sakura FGX, Tamiya F104 V2 and HPI Formula Ten this past two weeks and I`m left with a few questions.
1. Why havent manuals gotten better since the 80`s?
Poor drawings with incredibly tiny writing, Some kits not portioned out in sensible stages, especially the Tamiya kit. You pretty much have to open everthing at once! It`s 2013 I expect colour pictures and even a step by step build video on the manufacturers web page. Just imagine if your PC, phone or microwave came with equally crappy user manuals. And as for Tamiya, what`s up with not supplying the body shell and wing with the kit?
As for Tamiya not including the body in their high end race chassis, for most regular F1 racers we have a preferred body and as they last considerably longer than touring car bodies we usually transfer bodies between cars. Tamiyas modern body selection is the McLaren MP4-25, Ferrari F60 and generic F104 Pro. Due to licensing Tamiya would end up including the F104 Pro shell, which we would all then throw away as it isn't scale enough. Giving the option of being supplied a body we won't use or saving the cost of including a body, we would all choose the kit without the body.
The vast majority of Tamiyas F1 cars come with bodies, the only exceptions are the F104X1 and F104v2, both are expensive high end race chassis aimed at the experienced racer. There are 12 other F104 kits, every one of those includes a body and wings.
2. Quality controll. All over the kits are pretty ok, but why do Tamiya use philips head screws? they strip so easily. Speaking of screws, the steel used in the Sakura FGX screws are sub standard in quality, I have stripped 3 screws and i have used propper RC tools, it`s just soft metal. (their Ti screws on the other hand is great)
And why is crucial pieces in plastic? Like the shock rods on the Sakura and the eyelets/screw on the Tamiya/Hpi shocks?
#7135
Tech Master
As you've already got an F104W there's not that many parts actually needed. The F parts contains all the front end plastic parts, and even a set of plastic kingpin pivot balls if you don't want to buy the low friction ones. You will need 35mm turnbuckles, 5mm balls for the upper wishbone mounts and the kingpins, but all the small hardware and steering arms are the same as the F104W.
#7137
Tech Champion
iTrader: (22)
One thing I learned last month was that Japanese phillips screws (like what comes with most of our cars) are different than our standard. They have was is called JIS screws or "Japanese Industrial Standard." That why we often strip them out using our standard Stanley or Craftsman phillips screwdrivers. I learned this from a motorcycle mechanic.
http://www.amazon.com/Hozan-JIS-4-JI...crewdriver+set
What you need is a set of JIS screwdrivers like the above link.
Or, the screwdriver that you can buy from Team Associated, for example, is a JIS. You've probably seen it at the hobbyshop for like $12, and thought, "are they joking?" But, that's why its there. I finally bought one. Haven't stripped a phillips screw since.
Here's the Associated one:
http://www.teamassociated.com/parts/details/1553/
http://www.amazon.com/Hozan-JIS-4-JI...crewdriver+set
What you need is a set of JIS screwdrivers like the above link.
Or, the screwdriver that you can buy from Team Associated, for example, is a JIS. You've probably seen it at the hobbyshop for like $12, and thought, "are they joking?" But, that's why its there. I finally bought one. Haven't stripped a phillips screw since.
Here's the Associated one:
http://www.teamassociated.com/parts/details/1553/
It's not a matter of stripping them. I just hate them.
#7138
What are the better F1 chassis out there? I am looking to get into F1 and need some advice I am an avid TC driver.
#7139
Tech Master
#7140
Tech Fanatic
Te sound of gears that not mesh properly, and with the right tire choice i think the F104 is a faster, better and is easier for doing maintenance on the car.
But that's just my opinion.