New TEAM WAVE racing brushless system
#1426
Tech Champion
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Think you missed my point on rpm Dragon, if said motor is 3500kv at 3.7v it will only produce 12950rpm at 0 speedo timing, even on 2S the same motor will only produce 25200rpm which is in the turbo kick in range on the new firmware. So running with the minimum amount of timing on 1S, will the turbo actually work?
Unlike the older software when you hit full throttle on the Tx you got turbo from the speedo regardless of it's current rpm. Now on the new firmware it's rpm that defines when turbo comes in, not throttle position.
Now the more timeshift you add on the speedo the more rpm the motor will run at so you could/should notice more of a difference between kick in settings, no?
Unlike the older software when you hit full throttle on the Tx you got turbo from the speedo regardless of it's current rpm. Now on the new firmware it's rpm that defines when turbo comes in, not throttle position.
Now the more timeshift you add on the speedo the more rpm the motor will run at so you could/should notice more of a difference between kick in settings, no?
Last edited by Dragonfire; 06-15-2010 at 01:56 PM.
#1427
hey guys, my RB50 Needs Repair.
who do i need to contact to have it repaired?
Matt
who do i need to contact to have it repaired?
Matt
#1429
The new firware was designed specifically with 21.5-10.5 2s in mind. That said any motor that can't rev above 20k rpm will benefit from more timeshift which will give you that rpm anyway. Take note that the new system feeds on timing to boost motor performance so the is no sudden powerband like the old software.
Suppose the next question is how much extra rpm does the timeshift add but I doubt anyone will answer me that question..... A novak sentry would be handy about now.
#1432
True, but when your using a 10.5t on 1S in a car that can go round corners very quickly then having as much power to get out of the corner and still accelerate down the straight to the same speed as other cars becomes very important.
1S is very soft and underpowered compared to 4 NimH cells, I spent most of my races last year throttle jamming to keep the car in the turbo and it was still slow. Sadly there is no other options in the series I run, no roar sportsman spec to keep things more equal and modified isn't allowed so power is key.
1S is very soft and underpowered compared to 4 NimH cells, I spent most of my races last year throttle jamming to keep the car in the turbo and it was still slow. Sadly there is no other options in the series I run, no roar sportsman spec to keep things more equal and modified isn't allowed so power is key.
#1433
Tech Champion
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True, but when your using a 10.5t on 1S in a car that can go round corners very quickly then having as much power to get out of the corner and still accelerate down the straight to the same speed as other cars becomes very important.
1S is very soft and underpowered compared to 4 NimH cells, I spent most of my races last year throttle jamming to keep the car in the turbo and it was still slow. Sadly there is no other options in the series I run, no roar sportsman spec to keep things more equal and modified isn't allowed so power is key.
1S is very soft and underpowered compared to 4 NimH cells, I spent most of my races last year throttle jamming to keep the car in the turbo and it was still slow. Sadly there is no other options in the series I run, no roar sportsman spec to keep things more equal and modified isn't allowed so power is key.
#1434
Funny I'm sure I remember one of your posts saying 1 & 2 were for bottom end and 3 & 4 for for top end... Certainly that's what I felt when testing the TS settings, the higher the number the more top end the car had but it didn't jump out of the corners like it did on a lower TS setting. Perhaps a revised firmware with lower turbo kick in points for the RB12 when it becomes available will help.
#1435
Tech Elite
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Wouldn't changing your gearing also alter your rpms ,try changing gearing so turbo kicks in sooner you should be able to notice it if your holding the car and floor it. I was testing in 17.5 1s 1/12 with the new firmware and was only a couple 10ths off of what i ran with a Tekin and could of got it faster but changed to the sportsman mode to get ready for a big race. Keep at it you'll get their it took me a while to get where i was and gearing made the biggest difference.
#1436
Tech Champion
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Funny I'm sure I remember one of your posts saying 1 & 2 were for bottom end and 3 & 4 for for top end... Certainly that's what I felt when testing the TS settings, the higher the number the more top end the car had but it didn't jump out of the corners like it did on a lower TS setting. Perhaps a revised firmware with lower turbo kick in points for the RB12 when it becomes available will help.
Anyway I have a 12th scale I have yet to put together and start playing with but after comparing the BD v2 and the RB I am more interested in putting the wave into the 12th now. When I get this done I'll post up some findings but I suggest you don't give up and play with it some more. I will be amazed if you can't get it to go. Do you know what settings people are using with their MMP or RS esc's in 12th? This will give me an idea of where you should try starting from.
#1437
Tech Regular
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True, but when your using a 10.5t on 1S in a car that can go round corners very quickly then having as much power to get out of the corner and still accelerate down the straight to the same speed as other cars becomes very important.
1S is very soft and underpowered compared to 4 NimH cells, I spent most of my races last year throttle jamming to keep the car in the turbo and it was still slow. Sadly there is no other options in the series I run, no roar sportsman spec to keep things more equal and modified isn't allowed so power is key.
1S is very soft and underpowered compared to 4 NimH cells, I spent most of my races last year throttle jamming to keep the car in the turbo and it was still slow. Sadly there is no other options in the series I run, no roar sportsman spec to keep things more equal and modified isn't allowed so power is key.
#1438
303slowdown, what settings were you running before changing to sportsman mode, did it still have plenty of rip out of the corners?
Well at my local club the other couple of 1/12th run older esc's with no turbo's but at the bigger series we all race at last year one guy was running his GM with 60' of timing and 50mm/rev but he was on four cell so he had plenty of power everywhere. I was running 63mm/rev with timeshift 2 and the turbo on, I did try timeshift 5 and the lower rollout but the car was dog slow on acceleration and top end.
Problem I have testing at the local club is the hall is alot smaller so the 1/12th is carrying no corner speed at all and the straight is half the length as well. Might try it again this week and see how it goes.
Well at my local club the other couple of 1/12th run older esc's with no turbo's but at the bigger series we all race at last year one guy was running his GM with 60' of timing and 50mm/rev but he was on four cell so he had plenty of power everywhere. I was running 63mm/rev with timeshift 2 and the turbo on, I did try timeshift 5 and the lower rollout but the car was dog slow on acceleration and top end.
Problem I have testing at the local club is the hall is alot smaller so the 1/12th is carrying no corner speed at all and the straight is half the length as well. Might try it again this week and see how it goes.
#1439
Tech Regular
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303slowdown, what settings were you running before changing to sportsman mode, did it still have plenty of rip out of the corners?
Well at my local club the other couple of 1/12th run older esc's with no turbo's but at the bigger series we all race at last year one guy was running his GM with 60' of timing and 50mm/rev but he was on four cell so he had plenty of power everywhere. I was running 63mm/rev with timeshift 2 and the turbo on, I did try timeshift 5 and the lower rollout but the car was dog slow on acceleration and top end.
Problem I have testing at the local club is the hall is alot smaller so the 1/12th is carrying no corner speed at all and the straight is half the length as well. Might try it again this week and see how it goes.
Well at my local club the other couple of 1/12th run older esc's with no turbo's but at the bigger series we all race at last year one guy was running his GM with 60' of timing and 50mm/rev but he was on four cell so he had plenty of power everywhere. I was running 63mm/rev with timeshift 2 and the turbo on, I did try timeshift 5 and the lower rollout but the car was dog slow on acceleration and top end.
Problem I have testing at the local club is the hall is alot smaller so the 1/12th is carrying no corner speed at all and the straight is half the length as well. Might try it again this week and see how it goes.
#1440
Tech Apprentice
i ran the new firmware tonight for the first time due to holidays and lack of race meets and all I can say is what an improvement in performance thanks Teamwave