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Old 07-14-2009, 09:54 PM
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My 17.5/2S car has too much initial turn-in when I begin negotiating several corners on the high grip asphalt at NorCal Hobbies. Have red springs front and rear, Xray TC shock with blue Associated spring and 10,000# lube in the side tubes. Running spec tires. Suggestions?
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Originally Posted by Still Bill
My 17.5/2S car has too much initial turn-in when I begin negotiating several corners on the high grip asphalt at NorCal Hobbies. Have red springs front and rear, Xray TC shock with blue Associated spring and 10,000# lube in the side tubes. Running spec tires. Suggestions?
Reducing your toe-out will reduce the initial steering at corner entry.

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Reducing your toe-out will reduce the initial steering at corner entry.

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Agreed. My toe is already at zero degrees.

I do also have the front stiffener plate in place...Maybe that should go?

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shift some weight forward.. esc or receiver..
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Originally Posted by Still Bill
My 17.5/2S car has too much initial turn-in when I begin negotiating several corners on the high grip asphalt at NorCal Hobbies. Have red springs front and rear, Xray TC shock with blue Associated spring and 10,000# lube in the side tubes. Running spec tires. Suggestions?
What is it doing mid corner and on corner exit?
Is it hooking the rear round on exit or is it pushing the front?
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The stiffener should stay as removing will give you even more turn in steering. The rear shock and blue spring should be good. You need to stiffen up the dampener tubes to 50,000 and pod springs to green. You could ratchet up and try 30,000 first. This should take away corner entry steering. I assume you are running spec tires. Tire compound and camber are unknown but could make differences as well.

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One more thing: I assume you are using the 10 degree reactive caster blocks. You could also play around with caster up front.
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Originally Posted by tallyrc
shift some weight forward.. esc or receiver..
That's a good possibility. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by NiMo
What is it doing mid corner and on corner exit?
Is it hooking the rear round on exit or is it pushing the front?
There is this initial oversteer; whereupon, I have to make a correction away from the apex before getting anywhere close to mid-corner. No pushing involved.
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Originally Posted by Troy Mckune
The stiffener should stay as removing will give you even more turn in steering. The rear shock and blue spring should be good. You need to stiffen up the dampener tubes to 50,000 and pod springs to green. You could ratchet up and try 30,000 first. This should take away corner entry steering. I assume you are running spec tires. Tire compound and camber are unknown but could make differences as well.

Good luck,

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One more thing: I assume you are using the 10 degree reactive caster blocks. You could also play around with caster up front.
Troy,

You offer many easy changes. I will play with all of them and the caster.

Yes. Stock tires (sometimes with pinks on the back) and 10 degree caster blocks.

Thanks.

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goop up the front kingpins a bit, or glue the outer sidewalls on the front tires.
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Originally Posted by JamesArluck
goop up the front kingpins a bit, or glue the outer sidewalls on the front tires.
I did glue the outer sidewalls as my first step; but, greasing the front kingpins is another option.

Thanks James.

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Originally Posted by Still Bill
Troy,

You offer many easy changes. I will play with all of them and the caster.

Yes. Stock tires (sometimes with pinks on the back) and 10 degree caster blocks.

Thanks.

Bill

10º blocks? I have only ever run the 5º blocks and have ample steering.
This is my current set up (13.5), note caster blocks and spacers.
I am running outdoors with GRP Pinks all round.
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thicker tube oil, I've been running 30k at speedworld
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Default CRC Gen-X 10 Single Cell Conversion

Had the time this very hot weekend to convert my Gen-X 10 over to single cell for the IIC.

Pictures attached.

Got a hold of a ThunderPower 5000 IS pack and based the build around that with an SPX ESC directly behind. With titanium screws the car weighs 940 with 56.5/58 mm spec tires.
Top deck was lowered to match the height of the battery

Wiring is not finalized until it gets the magic treatment by OD Purple.

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The Xray X10 shaft is adjusted to CRC gen x-10?

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