Tamiya mini cooper
#3346
Originally Posted by minimanintaiwan
#53200 Tamiya 4WD Front One-Way Differential Unit. Is this it? What do you use it with. gear diff, ball diff or stand alone? It does say, used with TA03 chassis so maybe if you're running a TA03 ball diff in your mini you can use this as well. Maybe a loophole the judges in Canda allowed.
#3347
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Originally Posted by muahdib4
Ahhh...but the rules also state "If a driver finds a loophole within the rules, that exploitation will be deemed illegal."
#3349
so then why is the TA03 ball diff legal? it wasn't intended for use on the mini right?
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Because Fred says so. One-way is illegal in US TCS races, period. Same thing with a locked diff (spool). Gotta have some true diff action. Canada may be different.
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Originally Posted by muahdib4
It's there..part #53070...about 1/2 way down the page. I'd still like to know where the confusion is on the 1-way. Everyone says it's not legal but Bikerbod did say they verified that it was legal. Sounds like it needs RE-verified.
the TA03 is listed as a hopup, but the oneway is not, therefore it should not be legal.
i know some of the rules are left up to the discretion of the club running the various races, and some let a few small items slip by, but this seems like a biggie to me! never ran with a oneway in the mini tho....
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Originally Posted by rccardr
Because Fred says so. One-way is illegal in US TCS races, period. Same thing with a locked diff (spool). Gotta have some true diff action. Canada may be different.
OK, here is what I know.. I know because I have been told.
The track I race at is hosting the 1st TCS race in Canada this Saturday.
The owner of the track runs a M03-M with a 1 way in it.. Tamiya.. no idea the part # etc..
We run our points series TCS legal - We all bitched that he was running the one-way.. He checked with Tamiya Canada - YES the one-way is LEGAL.
This saturday he will be running his M03-M in the Mini class with a one-way in it.. unless Tamiya Canada backtracks.
HEY - I would not complain at all.. He is whooping the club racing by a full lap and a half.. and I think that has something to do with his ability to drive the one-way well.
I dont - have not tried it.. but I have been told by someone who WOULD KNOW.. that it has been declared legal by Tamiya Canada.
James
#3353
Originally Posted by TENCHO
so then why is the TA03 ball diff legal? it wasn't intended for use on the mini right?
#3354
Originally Posted by Bikerbob
OK, here is what I know.. I know because I have been told.
The track I race at is hosting the 1st TCS race in Canada this Saturday.
The owner of the track runs a M03-M with a 1 way in it.. Tamiya.. no idea the part # etc..
We run our points series TCS legal - We all bitched that he was running the one-way.. He checked with Tamiya Canada - YES the one-way is LEGAL.
This saturday he will be running his M03-M in the Mini class with a one-way in it.. unless Tamiya Canada backtracks.
HEY - I would not complain at all.. He is whooping the club racing by a full lap and a half.. and I think that has something to do with his ability to drive the one-way well.
I dont - have not tried it.. but I have been told by someone who WOULD KNOW.. that it has been declared legal by Tamiya Canada.
James
The track I race at is hosting the 1st TCS race in Canada this Saturday.
The owner of the track runs a M03-M with a 1 way in it.. Tamiya.. no idea the part # etc..
We run our points series TCS legal - We all bitched that he was running the one-way.. He checked with Tamiya Canada - YES the one-way is LEGAL.
This saturday he will be running his M03-M in the Mini class with a one-way in it.. unless Tamiya Canada backtracks.
HEY - I would not complain at all.. He is whooping the club racing by a full lap and a half.. and I think that has something to do with his ability to drive the one-way well.
I dont - have not tried it.. but I have been told by someone who WOULD KNOW.. that it has been declared legal by Tamiya Canada.
James
#3355
Whooa.. getting heated here. Can we agree to disagree?
Anyways I had a question a few posts back but got lost in the legal or not legal fury. So is #53200 the part in question and can be used in the mini?
Fastcats rule.. Oh Canada!
Anyways I had a question a few posts back but got lost in the legal or not legal fury. So is #53200 the part in question and can be used in the mini?
Fastcats rule.. Oh Canada!
#3356
Originally Posted by Bikerbob
OK, here is what I know.. I know because I have been told.
The track I race at is hosting the 1st TCS race in Canada this Saturday.
The owner of the track runs a M03-M with a 1 way in it.. Tamiya.. no idea the part # etc..
We run our points series TCS legal - We all bitched that he was running the one-way.. He checked with Tamiya Canada - YES the one-way is LEGAL.
This saturday he will be running his M03-M in the Mini class with a one-way in it.. unless Tamiya Canada backtracks.
HEY - I would not complain at all.. He is whooping the club racing by a full lap and a half.. and I think that has something to do with his ability to drive the one-way well.
I dont - have not tried it.. but I have been told by someone who WOULD KNOW.. that it has been declared legal by Tamiya Canada.
James
The track I race at is hosting the 1st TCS race in Canada this Saturday.
The owner of the track runs a M03-M with a 1 way in it.. Tamiya.. no idea the part # etc..
We run our points series TCS legal - We all bitched that he was running the one-way.. He checked with Tamiya Canada - YES the one-way is LEGAL.
This saturday he will be running his M03-M in the Mini class with a one-way in it.. unless Tamiya Canada backtracks.
HEY - I would not complain at all.. He is whooping the club racing by a full lap and a half.. and I think that has something to do with his ability to drive the one-way well.
I dont - have not tried it.. but I have been told by someone who WOULD KNOW.. that it has been declared legal by Tamiya Canada.
James
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#3357
Originally Posted by minimanintaiwan
Whooa.. getting heated here. Can we agree to disagree?
Anyways I had a question a few posts back but got lost in the legal or not legal fury. So is #53200 the part in question and can be used in the mini?
Fastcats rule.. Oh Canada!
Anyways I had a question a few posts back but got lost in the legal or not legal fury. So is #53200 the part in question and can be used in the mini?
Fastcats rule.. Oh Canada!
#3358
This subject comes up every year. Tamiya Canada does allow the one-way. However Tom does make the point that if you win here in Canada you better get used to driving without it when you go to California.
2005 & 2006 winner (Jerry Mann) and 2006 runner-up Sonny Lee did not use one-way's
BTW John used a diff at the Novak race and finished 6th (I think) in the A-Main He's fast either way
2005 & 2006 winner (Jerry Mann) and 2006 runner-up Sonny Lee did not use one-way's
BTW John used a diff at the Novak race and finished 6th (I think) in the A-Main He's fast either way
#3359
I should also add that in Canada we also have the following rule:
"3. Kit type closed-end bell, silver can motor only. Motors must not perform better that a 1.3amp draw at 2volts on a Peak or Orion Motor Performance Monitor. Motors will be checked throughout the race day. This is being done to tighten up the racing and encourage new racers to join this low cost type of racing!"
I was at the TCS finals in 2005 in California and it would be interseting to apply this rule to some of those Minis
"3. Kit type closed-end bell, silver can motor only. Motors must not perform better that a 1.3amp draw at 2volts on a Peak or Orion Motor Performance Monitor. Motors will be checked throughout the race day. This is being done to tighten up the racing and encourage new racers to join this low cost type of racing!"
I was at the TCS finals in 2005 in California and it would be interseting to apply this rule to some of those Minis
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Diff question?????
Ok.....so back to my original question awhile back......being a rookie......how do the officials tech the diff's??? Do they hold a wheel and check if there's any action in the diff??? If you can pretty much lock the diff with shims, blue tack, tar or whatever else a guy can find.....why would people want to run a one way in the first place??? Wouldn't it save the large gray area debate for the Tamiya officials to simply state....diffs must be run box original with Tamiya lube???? JMO