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Name Laps Time Fast Lap "Sunderlage, Matt " 20 05:04.5 14.83 "Bottoms, Kevin " 20 05:08.4 15.146 "Weir, David " 20 05:15.1 15.165 "Pepe, Ken " 19 05:10.9 15.788 "Catricala, John" 19 05:05.5 15.563 "Shaw, Tim " 19 05:08.9 15.936 "England, Derek " 19 05:13.0 15.643 "Lin, Kuo-Jen " 19 05:13.8 15.809 "Wood, Wes " 18 05:02.4 15.564 "Helson, Jay " 18 05:04.5 16.476 "Seay, Bob " 18 05:12.4 16.291 "Scott, Jim " 17 05:03.2 16.239 "Dickason, Scott" 17 05:00.2 16.639 "Giacalone, Dan " 17 05:00.4 17.186 "Black, Bill " 17 05:04.7 17.13 "Mendenhall, Allen" 17 05:15.2 17.799 "Bortolotti, Andy" 17 05:16.0 16.933 "Nave, Sonny " 16 05:01.7 17.586 "Campbell, Matt " 16 05:08.7 18.41 "Bertetto, Dave " 15 05:11.4 18.545 "Owens, Tom " 15 05:17.9 18.223 "Miller, Chris " 14 05:30.4 18.917 "Adelmeyer, Mike" 5 05:01.7 15.394 "Streeter, Jay " 2 39.592 19.327 "Weir, Nathan " 0 0 "Black, Andy " 0 0
#2837
Originally Posted by Drifter
Hi Folks!
Many years ago I had a Monte Carlo Cooper M01 and really loved it. Hoping to have that kind of fun again, I just ordered a Suzuki Swift .
Now surfing this thread and rc-mini.net (great page, thanks!) I learned, that the Tamiya aluminum king pins 53141 wont fit. Are there any other aluminum kingpins, either from a different Tamiya kit or a other manufacturer that would fit?
I want to use some tuningparts right from the beginning (blue TRF shocks, Tech Racing Universals and Steering kit, TA03 Diff, Ball bearings everywhere, SS Suspension Shaft Set) and I am wondering if I should use the Tamiya hollow carbon gear shaft set, or the Tech Racing blue aluminum one. Any tips?
Are the Suzuki wheels good, or should I buy different wheels for my other tires? What about the ABC Wheels?
On the pictures the Swift looks funny, the wheels beeing much to far inside the wheelarches. What is the best way to bring therm further out? Are there wider hex adaptors available, if yes, from which company?
I am investing in all those parts imidiately because I have to order from HK, and want to get everything shipped in one parcel, so that I dont have to pay shipping cost more than once. Unfortunately there is almost nothing available localy except the kit .
It will get good electronics: KoPropo PDS949ICS Servo if it fits and KoPropo KR301F Receiver. On the ESC/Motor I am undecided, either a LRP Quantum 2 or Novak GTX Speed Control with a brushed motor with probably 21-19 turns or a brushless system if I can find something that suits the Suzuki. I am thinking about a 5-cell setup using a LRP one-star motor, but I think this will still be to strong.
I wont have the time for using it much, but I want it to be as good as a Mini can get, so your help would be much appreciated!
Thanks and have fun with your Minis!
Bernd
Many years ago I had a Monte Carlo Cooper M01 and really loved it. Hoping to have that kind of fun again, I just ordered a Suzuki Swift .
Now surfing this thread and rc-mini.net (great page, thanks!) I learned, that the Tamiya aluminum king pins 53141 wont fit. Are there any other aluminum kingpins, either from a different Tamiya kit or a other manufacturer that would fit?
I want to use some tuningparts right from the beginning (blue TRF shocks, Tech Racing Universals and Steering kit, TA03 Diff, Ball bearings everywhere, SS Suspension Shaft Set) and I am wondering if I should use the Tamiya hollow carbon gear shaft set, or the Tech Racing blue aluminum one. Any tips?
Are the Suzuki wheels good, or should I buy different wheels for my other tires? What about the ABC Wheels?
On the pictures the Swift looks funny, the wheels beeing much to far inside the wheelarches. What is the best way to bring therm further out? Are there wider hex adaptors available, if yes, from which company?
I am investing in all those parts imidiately because I have to order from HK, and want to get everything shipped in one parcel, so that I dont have to pay shipping cost more than once. Unfortunately there is almost nothing available localy except the kit .
It will get good electronics: KoPropo PDS949ICS Servo if it fits and KoPropo KR301F Receiver. On the ESC/Motor I am undecided, either a LRP Quantum 2 or Novak GTX Speed Control with a brushed motor with probably 21-19 turns or a brushless system if I can find something that suits the Suzuki. I am thinking about a 5-cell setup using a LRP one-star motor, but I think this will still be to strong.
I wont have the time for using it much, but I want it to be as good as a Mini can get, so your help would be much appreciated!
Thanks and have fun with your Minis!
Bernd
In my experiance anything more than a black can is almost too much start with the kit motor. The kit is designed for a stick pack so I'm not sure a 5 cell would work. I have the KO VFS1 in mine and it works great. You'll want to get the 6 bearings to complete the kit 2qty 8mm x 5mm & 4qty 11mm x 5mm. The carbon shafts are most likely lighter.Tamiya make a 6mm hex, and you can use a 1 mm spacer on top of that, there is a kit with shallow wheel nut that might allow you more spacing. THe swift wheel are plenty strong. they however are about a gram heavier than the other Tamiya wheels. Also a note, the body is great, you might find that you want to slam the body, therefore widening the track will tend to give you wheel rub.
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A few more updates to our 'Media' section, including this nice 'Jolt Cola' Swift shell.
#2839
Originally Posted by Drifter
Hi Folks!
I learned, that the Tamiya aluminum king pins 53141 wont fit. Are there any other aluminum kingpins, either from a different Tamiya kit or a other manufacturer that would fit?
I want to use some tuningparts right from the beginning (blue TRF shocks, Tech Racing Universals and Steering kit, TA03 Diff, Ball bearings everywhere, SS Suspension Shaft Set) and I am wondering if I should use the Tamiya hollow carbon gear shaft set, or the Tech Racing blue aluminum one. Any tips?
Are the Suzuki wheels good, or should I buy different wheels for my other tires? What about the ABC Wheels?
On the pictures the Swift looks funny, the wheels beeing much to far inside the wheelarches. What is the best way to bring therm further out? Are there wider hex adaptors available, if yes, from which company?
I am investing in all those parts imidiately because I have to order from HK, and want to get everything shipped in one parcel, so that I dont have to pay shipping cost more than once. Unfortunately there is almost nothing available localy except the kit .
Thanks and have fun with your Minis!
Bernd
I learned, that the Tamiya aluminum king pins 53141 wont fit. Are there any other aluminum kingpins, either from a different Tamiya kit or a other manufacturer that would fit?
I want to use some tuningparts right from the beginning (blue TRF shocks, Tech Racing Universals and Steering kit, TA03 Diff, Ball bearings everywhere, SS Suspension Shaft Set) and I am wondering if I should use the Tamiya hollow carbon gear shaft set, or the Tech Racing blue aluminum one. Any tips?
Are the Suzuki wheels good, or should I buy different wheels for my other tires? What about the ABC Wheels?
On the pictures the Swift looks funny, the wheels beeing much to far inside the wheelarches. What is the best way to bring therm further out? Are there wider hex adaptors available, if yes, from which company?
I am investing in all those parts imidiately because I have to order from HK, and want to get everything shipped in one parcel, so that I dont have to pay shipping cost more than once. Unfortunately there is almost nothing available localy except the kit .
Thanks and have fun with your Minis!
Bernd
http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/produc...ducts_id=17530
Though the suzuki swift 1600 rims are cheaper and work just fine.
TM3140 Tech Racing Aluminum King Pin Tamiya M03M
SMF13 Square Aluminum King Pin Collar Tamiya M03M
http://stores.ebay.com/Jasons-Store_...QQftidZ2QQtZkm
You can get Tamiya clamp type alum wheel hub 6mm #53569 but I've groken the screw before rendering it useless until you replace the screw. I just use the heavier pin type adapter #53056 and add spacers #53646. It's cheap and durable.
#2841
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Thanks for your answers!
@ Tony: yeah, IŽd like to have the shine bits and also I want to eliminate anything that can rust, because I will use it in bad weather also.
I know these wider hex adaptors from a friends TT01 Subaru, they dont fit there also, because of the same reason. Strange, whatfor does Tamiya include them, if they wont fit?? Other than that I wont need the 53345 toe-in rear upright set, because they come in my kit, right?
@tamiyarcracer: with a 5-cell pack I would run 4 cells like a stick pack and the 5th cell at the end, this way it should fit. Isnt there a possibility to run side by side packs, I would like to switch to Lipo anyway?
About the motor: I think I ran a 2*19 turn 1/12th scale Motor from 1989 in my M01, but I am not sure. It was as much as the Mini could handle and it suited it well because of the old technology it didnt have to much torque. A modern 19 turn would have to much torque I think, I would like to get something like a Team Orion Method R 19*2 limited edition with weak magnets. Maybe the 21*2 would be the better choice?
What winding is the black can Tamiya? Will the esc coming with the kit stand it?
What about the "Acto tuned M Special" Motor that was available for the M01. It would help with the balance l/r, so if it fits and has the right amount of power this should be a good choice? The shop which I ordered my Mini from has one laying around, so it would be easy for me to find one, if its a good choice
Thanks again, hopefully all my questions are answered soon
Bernd
@ Tony: yeah, IŽd like to have the shine bits and also I want to eliminate anything that can rust, because I will use it in bad weather also.
I know these wider hex adaptors from a friends TT01 Subaru, they dont fit there also, because of the same reason. Strange, whatfor does Tamiya include them, if they wont fit?? Other than that I wont need the 53345 toe-in rear upright set, because they come in my kit, right?
@tamiyarcracer: with a 5-cell pack I would run 4 cells like a stick pack and the 5th cell at the end, this way it should fit. Isnt there a possibility to run side by side packs, I would like to switch to Lipo anyway?
About the motor: I think I ran a 2*19 turn 1/12th scale Motor from 1989 in my M01, but I am not sure. It was as much as the Mini could handle and it suited it well because of the old technology it didnt have to much torque. A modern 19 turn would have to much torque I think, I would like to get something like a Team Orion Method R 19*2 limited edition with weak magnets. Maybe the 21*2 would be the better choice?
What winding is the black can Tamiya? Will the esc coming with the kit stand it?
What about the "Acto tuned M Special" Motor that was available for the M01. It would help with the balance l/r, so if it fits and has the right amount of power this should be a good choice? The shop which I ordered my Mini from has one laying around, so it would be easy for me to find one, if its a good choice
Thanks again, hopefully all my questions are answered soon
Bernd
#2844
Originally Posted by Drifter
Thanks for your answers!
@ Tony: yeah, IŽd like to have the shine bits and also I want to eliminate anything that can rust, because I will use it in bad weather also.
I know these wider hex adaptors from a friends TT01 Subaru, they dont fit there also, because of the same reason. Strange, whatfor does Tamiya include them, if they wont fit?? Other than that I wont need the 53345 toe-in rear upright set, because they come in my kit, right?
@tamiyarcracer: with a 5-cell pack I would run 4 cells like a stick pack and the 5th cell at the end, this way it should fit. Isnt there a possibility to run side by side packs, I would like to switch to Lipo anyway?
About the motor: I think I ran a 2*19 turn 1/12th scale Motor from 1989 in my M01, but I am not sure. It was as much as the Mini could handle and it suited it well because of the old technology it didnt have to much torque. A modern 19 turn would have to much torque I think, I would like to get something like a Team Orion Method R 19*2 limited edition with weak magnets. Maybe the 21*2 would be the better choice?
What winding is the black can Tamiya? Will the esc coming with the kit stand it?
What about the "Acto tuned M Special" Motor that was available for the M01. It would help with the balance l/r, so if it fits and has the right amount of power this should be a good choice? The shop which I ordered my Mini from has one laying around, so it would be easy for me to find one, if its a good choice
Thanks again, hopefully all my questions are answered soon
Bernd
@ Tony: yeah, IŽd like to have the shine bits and also I want to eliminate anything that can rust, because I will use it in bad weather also.
I know these wider hex adaptors from a friends TT01 Subaru, they dont fit there also, because of the same reason. Strange, whatfor does Tamiya include them, if they wont fit?? Other than that I wont need the 53345 toe-in rear upright set, because they come in my kit, right?
@tamiyarcracer: with a 5-cell pack I would run 4 cells like a stick pack and the 5th cell at the end, this way it should fit. Isnt there a possibility to run side by side packs, I would like to switch to Lipo anyway?
About the motor: I think I ran a 2*19 turn 1/12th scale Motor from 1989 in my M01, but I am not sure. It was as much as the Mini could handle and it suited it well because of the old technology it didnt have to much torque. A modern 19 turn would have to much torque I think, I would like to get something like a Team Orion Method R 19*2 limited edition with weak magnets. Maybe the 21*2 would be the better choice?
What winding is the black can Tamiya? Will the esc coming with the kit stand it?
What about the "Acto tuned M Special" Motor that was available for the M01. It would help with the balance l/r, so if it fits and has the right amount of power this should be a good choice? The shop which I ordered my Mini from has one laying around, so it would be easy for me to find one, if its a good choice
Thanks again, hopefully all my questions are answered soon
Bernd
The only way to put a side by side in the mini is ti majorly cut it up. There is a lipo, Orion 3200 is made to fit mini's
Black can in 23 turn, but something like 0 timing.
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Originally Posted by Speed Demon
Hi all,
I bought the mini M03 XB version. I want to use the 27T motor. may I know what in the internal ratio of the M03?
I bought the mini M03 XB version. I want to use the 27T motor. may I know what in the internal ratio of the M03?
#2847
Originally Posted by Customworksking
still sitting 2nd few 10ths off working on the motor now
What are the times looking like?
is there one qual left tomorrow?
Who is the top 10? mini
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Race# 3 Mini (C Main) Qual Car# Driver Name Laps/Time 19 1 "Bertetto, Dave " 17/5:08.216--- 20 2 "Nave, Sonny " 17/5:11.374--- 21 3 "Bortolotti, Andy " 17/5:13.906--- 22 4 "Campbell, Matt " 17/5:14.802--- 23 5 "Mendenhall, Allen " 17/5:15.170--- 24 6 "Owens, Tom " 16/5:05.738--- 25 7 "Black, Andy " 15/5:09.983--- 26 8 "Miller, Chris " 15/5:21.788--- Race# 4 Mini (B Main) Qual Car# Driver Name Laps/Time 11 1 "Lin, Kuo-Jen " 19/5:11.576--- 12 2 "Helson, Jay " 18/5:04.471--- 13 3 "Streeter, Jay " 18/5:05.860--- 14 4 "Dickason, Scott " 18/5:09.064--- 15 5 "Giacalone, Dan " 18/5:09.267--- 16 6 "Seay, Bob " 18/5:10.086--- 17 7 "Scott, Jim " 18/5:10.641--- 18 8 "Black, Bill " 17/5:04.550--- Race# 5 Mini (A1 Main) Qual Car# Driver Name Laps/Time 1 1 "Sunderlage, Matt " 20/5:04.533--- 2 2 "Bottoms, Kevin " 20/5:07.809--- 3 3 "Weir, David " 20/5:15.103--- 4 4 "Weir, Nathan " 19/5:01.555--- 5 5 "Adelmeyer, Mike " 19/5:01.709--- 6 6 "Catricala, John " 19/5:02.355--- 7 7 "Pepe, Ken " 19/5:04.350--- 8 8 "England, Derek " 19/5:05.103--- 9 9 "Shaw, Tim " 19/5:06.812--- 10 10 "Wood, Wes " 19/5:10.908---
#2849
Tech Apprentice
Originally Posted by tamiyarcracer
You don't need the 53345 cause the swift come with a newer imroved version.
The only way to put a side by side in the mini is ti majorly cut it up. There is a lipo, Orion 3200 is made to fit mini's
Black can in 23 turn, but something like 0 timing.
The only way to put a side by side in the mini is ti majorly cut it up. There is a lipo, Orion 3200 is made to fit mini's
Black can in 23 turn, but something like 0 timing.
One more questions: are the blue TRF #49355 dampers the same lenght as the C.V.A. Super Mini Shocks #50746, or are the TRF longer?
#2850
Originally Posted by tony gray
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You can get wider hex adaptors (they come as part of 53345 toe-in rear upright set) but the axle isnt long enough to let you use them (you cant get enough thread on the nut).......
You can get wider hex adaptors (they come as part of 53345 toe-in rear upright set) but the axle isnt long enough to let you use them (you cant get enough thread on the nut).......
Are there any wheel axles (any manufacturers) which long enough to accomodate this type of hex adaptor ... ??
I prefer universal wheel axle 'cause I will use it with my univ. shaft drive.