4LikesTamiya TRF416 / TRF416WE / TRF416X
09-27-2007, 11:38 AM
#167
TRF414M2
im going reverse.TAM# gone mad. anybody wanna let go the 414m2?Let me know or PM me.
09-27-2007, 01:52 PM
#168
Now see Josh Numans car from the IIC
http://rc50.com/modules.php?name=cop...lbum=39&pos=81
Jimmy I know you are reading this and LURKING! LOL F1Larry be quiet :P
09-27-2007, 02:06 PM
#169
Any doubt that the 415 is the car to run on carpet...
Now see Josh Numans car from the IIC
http://rc50.com/modules.php?name=cop...lbum=39&pos=81
Jimmy I know you are reading this and LURKING! LOL F1Larry be quiet :P
Now see Josh Numans car from the IIC
http://rc50.com/modules.php?name=cop...lbum=39&pos=81
Jimmy I know you are reading this and LURKING! LOL F1Larry be quiet :P
hehehehehehehe
Looks like the old suspension on it as well.
I still want to know what Jimmy's new car is.
09-27-2007, 02:22 PM
#170
Any doubt that the 415 is the car to run on carpet...
Now see Josh Numans car from the IIC
http://rc50.com/modules.php?name=cop...lbum=39&pos=81
Jimmy I know you are reading this and LURKING! LOL F1Larry be quiet :P
Now see Josh Numans car from the IIC
http://rc50.com/modules.php?name=cop...lbum=39&pos=81
Jimmy I know you are reading this and LURKING! LOL F1Larry be quiet :P
Looks like Josh is using an MRE for foam though.. with HPI hubs, old steering and 4mm chassis. Also looks like he's got the std length arms.
The rubber car though... can't make out if it's the short LWt or Std length arms... but it's an MS for sure (markings on rear bulkhead), but using a 4mm chassis as well (look at the recessed chassis post holes...)
09-27-2007, 09:08 PM
#171
Somewhat seriously...
I don't care if nothing changes, EXCEPT, change the arm mold and give us two fronts or two rears together, or one at a time, I don't care. But have you all checked out the TC5? Six bucks for a pair of arms: front/front, or rear/rear, and flippable to boot. That makes arms 4 times more expensive on my MSXX than a TC5. I'm a racer, and sometimes it's my fault, and sometimes I get punted. But compared to other brands, Tamiya parts are too expensive. Arms, uprights, knuckles, c-blocks, bearings, you name it. The TC5 is getting serious traction at my track. It's $60 cheaper out of the box, and parts are WAY less. I'm not saying it's a better car, but it's no joke either. Make noise now, or the Tamiya high-end risks going the way of Schumacher: Pretty, rare, and expensive.
Imagine: "Tamiya introduces the 420 TRF Super Special Rheinard Orgazmo Deluxe. We changed the arm mold." That's an upgrade.
I don't care if nothing changes, EXCEPT, change the arm mold and give us two fronts or two rears together, or one at a time, I don't care. But have you all checked out the TC5? Six bucks for a pair of arms: front/front, or rear/rear, and flippable to boot. That makes arms 4 times more expensive on my MSXX than a TC5. I'm a racer, and sometimes it's my fault, and sometimes I get punted. But compared to other brands, Tamiya parts are too expensive. Arms, uprights, knuckles, c-blocks, bearings, you name it. The TC5 is getting serious traction at my track. It's $60 cheaper out of the box, and parts are WAY less. I'm not saying it's a better car, but it's no joke either. Make noise now, or the Tamiya high-end risks going the way of Schumacher: Pretty, rare, and expensive.
Imagine: "Tamiya introduces the 420 TRF Super Special Rheinard Orgazmo Deluxe. We changed the arm mold." That's an upgrade.
09-27-2007, 11:02 PM
#172
Budweiser vs. Asahi: which costs more?
What country do you race in? How much do you suppose Associated stuff costs in Japan?
Remember, Tamiya exports to the US. Of course it is going to be cheaper for us to buy a domestic product rather than an import.
Try buying directly from Japan if you want a better price. It will be cheaper than having to pay those extra bureaucratic expenses.
What country do you race in? How much do you suppose Associated stuff costs in Japan?
Remember, Tamiya exports to the US. Of course it is going to be cheaper for us to buy a domestic product rather than an import.
Try buying directly from Japan if you want a better price. It will be cheaper than having to pay those extra bureaucratic expenses.
09-28-2007, 12:12 AM
#173
Budweiser vs. Asahi: which costs more?
What country do you race in? How much do you suppose Associated stuff costs in Japan?
Remember, Tamiya exports to the US. Of course it is going to be cheaper for us to buy a domestic product rather than an import.
Try buying directly from Japan if you want a better price. It will be cheaper than having to pay those extra bureaucratic expenses.
What country do you race in? How much do you suppose Associated stuff costs in Japan?
Remember, Tamiya exports to the US. Of course it is going to be cheaper for us to buy a domestic product rather than an import.
Try buying directly from Japan if you want a better price. It will be cheaper than having to pay those extra bureaucratic expenses.
Associated STUFF is not made in the U.S>
Although,
I do have more Tamiya than Associated in my garage! I just look the other way when I pay the bill!
09-28-2007, 12:21 AM
#174
This is a tad irrelevant comparaison, look at the price of kyosho kits in Japan, even discounted at rcchamp and the likes... kyosho kits (stallion) are very expensive everywhere (but worth it imho)
Tamiya parts are very expensive here in Singapore, are cheap as dirt in hk, are ok priced in Japan, quite expensive in Europe.
Associated is expensive in Japan, Impossible to find in south Asia, cheap in Hk, cheap in the US, quite affordable in Europe
So it s not all about import and manufacturing, factory in China etc.. and the likes, it s more about importer, local competition and pricing policy (and exchange rates!).
Tamiya parts are very expensive here in Singapore, are cheap as dirt in hk, are ok priced in Japan, quite expensive in Europe.
Associated is expensive in Japan, Impossible to find in south Asia, cheap in Hk, cheap in the US, quite affordable in Europe
So it s not all about import and manufacturing, factory in China etc.. and the likes, it s more about importer, local competition and pricing policy (and exchange rates!).
09-28-2007, 02:22 AM
#175
Somewhat seriously...
I don't care if nothing changes, EXCEPT, change the arm mold and give us two fronts or two rears together, or one at a time, I don't care. But have you all checked out the TC5? Six bucks for a pair of arms: front/front, or rear/rear, and flippable to boot. That makes arms 4 times more expensive on my MSXX than a TC5. I'm a racer, and sometimes it's my fault, and sometimes I get punted. But compared to other brands, Tamiya parts are too expensive. Arms, uprights, knuckles, c-blocks, bearings, you name it. The TC5 is getting serious traction at my track. It's $60 cheaper out of the box, and parts are WAY less. I'm not saying it's a better car, but it's no joke either. Make noise now, or the Tamiya high-end risks going the way of Schumacher: Pretty, rare, and expensive.
Imagine: "Tamiya introduces the 420 TRF Super Special Rheinard Orgazmo Deluxe. We changed the arm mold." That's an upgrade.
I don't care if nothing changes, EXCEPT, change the arm mold and give us two fronts or two rears together, or one at a time, I don't care. But have you all checked out the TC5? Six bucks for a pair of arms: front/front, or rear/rear, and flippable to boot. That makes arms 4 times more expensive on my MSXX than a TC5. I'm a racer, and sometimes it's my fault, and sometimes I get punted. But compared to other brands, Tamiya parts are too expensive. Arms, uprights, knuckles, c-blocks, bearings, you name it. The TC5 is getting serious traction at my track. It's $60 cheaper out of the box, and parts are WAY less. I'm not saying it's a better car, but it's no joke either. Make noise now, or the Tamiya high-end risks going the way of Schumacher: Pretty, rare, and expensive.
Imagine: "Tamiya introduces the 420 TRF Super Special Rheinard Orgazmo Deluxe. We changed the arm mold." That's an upgrade.
09-28-2007, 02:49 AM
#176
anyway, you will have to change your nick!!!
al
09-28-2007, 04:45 AM
#177
I never said anything about where Associated produces their parts. Outsourcing a product doesn't necessarily mean that it is non-domestic. Such products aren't automatically subject to import costs. If those same import costs were associated with outsourcing, it would make no sense to outsource in the first place.
Patriiik,
I do agree that all of the factors you mentioned play a role in costs, but you can always find exceptions to every generalization. Besides, I did not mention anything about China, HK, Singapore, or anywhere else aside from the US and Japan. In today's market, all else held equal, imports are more expensive than domestic products.
But I don't quite understand what you mean when you said how it's "not all about import and manufacturing... it s more about importer, local competition and pricing policy..." All of those things are interrelated and based on import and manufacturing costs.
09-28-2007, 06:17 AM
#178
cost isnt an issue to some, if you want it, you'll buy. (Wish I had enough cash to do that )
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09-28-2007, 08:14 AM
#179
09-29-2007, 12:36 AM
#180
This is a tad irrelevant comparaison, look at the price of kyosho kits in Japan, even discounted at rcchamp and the likes... kyosho kits (stallion) are very expensive everywhere (but worth it imho)
Tamiya parts are very expensive here in Singapore, are cheap as dirt in hk, are ok priced in Japan, quite expensive in Europe.
Associated is expensive in Japan, Impossible to find in south Asia, cheap in Hk, cheap in the US, quite affordable in Europe
So it s not all about import and manufacturing, factory in China etc.. and the likes, it s more about importer, local competition and pricing policy (and exchange rates!).
Tamiya parts are very expensive here in Singapore, are cheap as dirt in hk, are ok priced in Japan, quite expensive in Europe.
Associated is expensive in Japan, Impossible to find in south Asia, cheap in Hk, cheap in the US, quite affordable in Europe
So it s not all about import and manufacturing, factory in China etc.. and the likes, it s more about importer, local competition and pricing policy (and exchange rates!).
