Tamiya TA05 IFS
07-16-2007, 09:36 AM
#61
Tech Adept
The following are listed as Hop-Up specifically for the IFS (back of the IFS manual):
53991 TA05-IFS Carbon Reinforced N Parts
53992 Aluminum Rocker Nut
53993 Aluminum Rocker Arm Set
53994 Carbon Damper Stay (Rear)
The reinforced N Parts are the grayish version of the first picture posted by TFR (left bag), excluding the hub carriers. However, those carriers are 4L and 4R (right bag), which IMO, serves the same purpose as those 4R and 4L from '53899 Reversible Lightweight Suspension Set'.
Also, the IFS comes with 4 lookalike '53899 Reversible Lightweight Suspension Set' arms, but of the stock material (blackish). Which means the wheel axles are shorter than the stock TA05. If you are clueless what I am on about, don't worry, just get the '53899 Reversible Lightweight Suspension Set' (expensive though).
Rocker Nut and Rocker Arm Set, you need those.
As for the TA05 IFS stock Rear Damper Stay, they have 4 holes for your dampers and are of the same exact position as the 53846 TA05 Carbon Damper Stay (Rear). The only stupid thing is that the 2nd hole from the inside is used up for the body rod (the one you stick pins in to hold your lexan body), which leaves you with 3 holes to play with. However, the position of the rods are the same as those of stock TA05 rear damper stay.
IMO, if you already have 53846 TA05 Carbon Damper Stay (Rear), don't bother about the TA05-IFS version (unless it looks radically different with 5 holes or something).
Stock setup uses all medium springs with rear damper at outer-most hole and IFS dampers at softest setting aka no spacers (odd if you ask me). To adjust the IFS damper, you add 0.5mm spacers to the rear of the rocker (between rocker and ball connector). Each 0.5mm spacer is equivalent to moving damper outwards on a standard damper stay by 1 hole. At least that what I understand from the manual.
Particularly disturbing is the list of Hop-Ups did not include any stabilizer sets. However, the older picture of a fully Hop-Up IFS by TFR shows stabilizer, and if you look close enough, the rear stabilizer sticks out of the Stabilizer End ball (like on the TA05 MS). But I guess that's not important.
Also, the N parts has 4 plastic spacers. These are used for the wheel length adjustment. Stock setup, the Front suspension arm is 7.5mm away from the body, the rear is 6.5mm away.
Finally, stock setup rear toe-in is 1.0 degree and front 0 degree. I doubt it will work at all on a technical track IMO.
53991 TA05-IFS Carbon Reinforced N Parts
53992 Aluminum Rocker Nut
53993 Aluminum Rocker Arm Set
53994 Carbon Damper Stay (Rear)
The reinforced N Parts are the grayish version of the first picture posted by TFR (left bag), excluding the hub carriers. However, those carriers are 4L and 4R (right bag), which IMO, serves the same purpose as those 4R and 4L from '53899 Reversible Lightweight Suspension Set'.
Also, the IFS comes with 4 lookalike '53899 Reversible Lightweight Suspension Set' arms, but of the stock material (blackish). Which means the wheel axles are shorter than the stock TA05. If you are clueless what I am on about, don't worry, just get the '53899 Reversible Lightweight Suspension Set' (expensive though).
Rocker Nut and Rocker Arm Set, you need those.
As for the TA05 IFS stock Rear Damper Stay, they have 4 holes for your dampers and are of the same exact position as the 53846 TA05 Carbon Damper Stay (Rear). The only stupid thing is that the 2nd hole from the inside is used up for the body rod (the one you stick pins in to hold your lexan body), which leaves you with 3 holes to play with. However, the position of the rods are the same as those of stock TA05 rear damper stay.
IMO, if you already have 53846 TA05 Carbon Damper Stay (Rear), don't bother about the TA05-IFS version (unless it looks radically different with 5 holes or something).
Stock setup uses all medium springs with rear damper at outer-most hole and IFS dampers at softest setting aka no spacers (odd if you ask me). To adjust the IFS damper, you add 0.5mm spacers to the rear of the rocker (between rocker and ball connector). Each 0.5mm spacer is equivalent to moving damper outwards on a standard damper stay by 1 hole. At least that what I understand from the manual.
Particularly disturbing is the list of Hop-Ups did not include any stabilizer sets. However, the older picture of a fully Hop-Up IFS by TFR shows stabilizer, and if you look close enough, the rear stabilizer sticks out of the Stabilizer End ball (like on the TA05 MS). But I guess that's not important.
Also, the N parts has 4 plastic spacers. These are used for the wheel length adjustment. Stock setup, the Front suspension arm is 7.5mm away from the body, the rear is 6.5mm away.
Finally, stock setup rear toe-in is 1.0 degree and front 0 degree. I doubt it will work at all on a technical track IMO.
Last edited by Boxey; 07-16-2007 at 09:56 AM. Reason: Typo
07-17-2007, 12:00 AM
#62
Boxey
Many thanks for a well written critique. All good info and considered opinion
Many thanks for a well written critique. All good info and considered opinion
07-27-2007, 03:04 PM
#65
Chris have you seen the one Fred has been building the last 2 weeks or so? Looks really trick, but the body is kinda odd. It is in 3 main parts: the body, the wing/mirrors, and the tail. The rear end of the body is a seperate lexan piece that has to be tapes onto the main body, then have holes put throusgh both for the wing.
07-27-2007, 03:34 PM
#66
Chris have you seen the one Fred has been building the last 2 weeks or so? Looks really trick, but the body is kinda odd. It is in 3 main parts: the body, the wing/mirrors, and the tail. The rear end of the body is a seperate lexan piece that has to be tapes onto the main body, then have holes put throusgh both for the wing.
07-27-2007, 06:56 PM
#68
I really have no idea why they chose to do that, but it kinda turned me off to that body for racing. With the double sided tape and double lexan, its just going to be a bit tail heavy no matter what wing you put on. I dealt with those rocker arms too on my F201, and i don't know that I'd want to go back to messing with those on the IFS for racing....maybe just for Saturdays though.
07-27-2007, 07:02 PM
#69
IFS
Hi All
I just got my IFS from RC Champ this morning. It was certainly odd when opening the box and finding the rear end in two separate pieces. Abit of a worry because a couple of rear-enders and the tape will be history. Has any one seen an IFS on the track?
I just got my IFS from RC Champ this morning. It was certainly odd when opening the box and finding the rear end in two separate pieces. Abit of a worry because a couple of rear-enders and the tape will be history. Has any one seen an IFS on the track?
07-27-2007, 09:54 PM
#70
Set it and forget it
07-27-2007, 10:38 PM
#71
shoe goo?
will shoe goo stick to lexan?
07-28-2007, 09:08 AM
#72
Great info guys, thanks 
But, what about the tie rod that connects from the front arms to the rocker arms? What length is it? Part number?
But, what about the tie rod that connects from the front arms to the rocker arms? What length is it? Part number?
07-28-2007, 09:34 AM
#73
Tech Adept
This is coming from a newbie but I adjust ride height using the above adjusters, moving the damper rings didn't do anything for me, just tension. So 14mm is just a guide.
07-28-2007, 03:14 PM
#74
Hey all I have a TA05 with the Tamiya LW tub chassi, I was thinking about ordering this new IFS,will the LW tub chassis from the TA05 fit this car? Thanks yall
