2LikesTamiya TA05MS
01-16-2009, 10:18 PM
#1231
You need: 9804268, 9804267, and you should also get an extra 05MS eccentric bearing holder for the diff bearings because you need to ream it out to fit the aluminum sleeve through.
01-16-2009, 10:30 PM
#1232
01-17-2009, 06:32 AM
#1233
Tech Master
Has anyone fitted the DJ-pro rear module on their ta05ms? Its meant to make the rear end quite stable at high speeds
01-17-2009, 09:00 AM
#1234
01-17-2009, 10:38 PM
#1235
Some guys tried it on the regular TA05, but I haven't seen anything about it with the TA05MS. You can see it by searching the part number (1004) on Tamiya USA. David Jun Pro module suspension is made of aluminum; I'd be worried about bending the expensive A-arms. Furthermore, I don't think it was intended to be used with the short lightweight arms. The MS has impressive cornering with the short lightweight arms though I don't know if the short arms provide more high speed stability. The power from the 10.5 I have been using with my TA05MS hasn't given me any rear traction issues.
I found time to do a little testing with my TA05MS at the local track today and ended up making a small change to the rear roll center from the setup that I last posted. It worked out well and when I go back to the track tomorrow, I am going to try a stiffer front sway bar in attempts to find a little more braking traction.
I found time to do a little testing with my TA05MS at the local track today and ended up making a small change to the rear roll center from the setup that I last posted. It worked out well and when I go back to the track tomorrow, I am going to try a stiffer front sway bar in attempts to find a little more braking traction.
01-17-2009, 10:52 PM
#1236
I am assuming this is what ppl are referring to..
http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...roduct-id=1004
and here's a pic of the rear with pro module installed...
http://www.tamiyausa.com/images/prod.../gallery_4.jpg
from what i've read about the pro-module is that most found simply installing this rear suspension setup they found their car easier to drive with better rear traction..
read further on and a lot have removed this suspension as they realised they could achieve the same results with a properly setup car..
-Mark
http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...roduct-id=1004
and here's a pic of the rear with pro module installed...
http://www.tamiyausa.com/images/prod.../gallery_4.jpg
from what i've read about the pro-module is that most found simply installing this rear suspension setup they found their car easier to drive with better rear traction..
read further on and a lot have removed this suspension as they realised they could achieve the same results with a properly setup car..
-Mark
01-18-2009, 05:40 AM
#1237
Yes, that is the correct part. The TA05 spool uses steel outdrives, so it is more durable than the delrin parts. It does not have a sleeve like the 416 spool.
However, the steel outdrives create chatter under cornering and they accelerate wear on the swingshafts. I used the steel outdrives with 46 mm swingshafts for a little while (the shorter shafts helped to eliminate chatter), then I bought a few 415MSXX spool parts to make a custom spool which uses the sleeves, delrin cups, and 48 mm swingshafts.
Your friend must have been unlucky. The delrin cups last for a good amount of time. I've only needed to replace my 416 and MS delrin cups once each.
However, the steel outdrives create chatter under cornering and they accelerate wear on the swingshafts. I used the steel outdrives with 46 mm swingshafts for a little while (the shorter shafts helped to eliminate chatter), then I bought a few 415MSXX spool parts to make a custom spool which uses the sleeves, delrin cups, and 48 mm swingshafts.
Your friend must have been unlucky. The delrin cups last for a good amount of time. I've only needed to replace my 416 and MS delrin cups once each.
However I still can't find an on line shop with Tamiya spol in stock at the moment i m leaning towards the 3Racing spool which is a bit cheaper. Has any of you guys tried it before? Does it come with plastic outdrive cup or steel like Tamiya? Any durability issue? What pulley to put it with,one way pulley or diff pulley?
Thanks!
01-18-2009, 05:40 AM
#1238
Yes, that is the correct part. The TA05 spool uses steel outdrives, so it is more durable than the delrin parts. It does not have a sleeve like the 416 spool.
However, the steel outdrives create chatter under cornering and they accelerate wear on the swingshafts. I used the steel outdrives with 46 mm swingshafts for a little while (the shorter shafts helped to eliminate chatter), then I bought a few 415MSXX spool parts to make a custom spool which uses the sleeves, delrin cups, and 48 mm swingshafts.
Your friend must have been unlucky. The delrin cups last for a good amount of time. I've only needed to replace my 416 and MS delrin cups once each.
However, the steel outdrives create chatter under cornering and they accelerate wear on the swingshafts. I used the steel outdrives with 46 mm swingshafts for a little while (the shorter shafts helped to eliminate chatter), then I bought a few 415MSXX spool parts to make a custom spool which uses the sleeves, delrin cups, and 48 mm swingshafts.
Your friend must have been unlucky. The delrin cups last for a good amount of time. I've only needed to replace my 416 and MS delrin cups once each.
However I still can't find an on line shop with Tamiya spool in stock at the moment i m leaning towards the 3Racing spool which is a bit cheaper. Has any of you guys tried it before? Does it come with plastic outdrive cup or steel like Tamiya? Any durability issue? What pulley to put it with,one way pulley or diff pulley?
Thanks!
01-18-2009, 02:16 PM
#1239
The one-way pulley is the one you need for the spool. The Tamiya spool comes with a regular 36 tooth pulley. I don't know about the 3Racing spool. It should be good enough to use temporarily at least...
01-19-2009, 11:23 AM
#1240
Tamiya wants $65 for one arm!
My MS is set-up with the original LWT arms & is very stable with great turn in, IMO the David Jun rear suspension is unnecessary for the this car and the money can be better spent elsewhere!
01-19-2009, 01:26 PM
#1241
I used the DJ suspension on my TA05R and was great til I bummed a wall at a track and slightly bent one of the aluminum rear arms, only knocked it 1º out but that was enough.
Tamiya wants $65 for one arm!
My MS is set-up with the original LWT arms & is very stable with great turn in, IMO the David Jun rear suspension is unnecessary for the this car and the money can be better spent elsewhere!
Tamiya wants $65 for one arm!
My MS is set-up with the original LWT arms & is very stable with great turn in, IMO the David Jun rear suspension is unnecessary for the this car and the money can be better spent elsewhere!
# 1002 Pro-Module Suspension Arm 2pc
# 1003 Pro-Module Suspension Hub 2pc
# 9805611 5 X 9mm Ball Connector 2pc
# 53533 3 X 16mm Titanium Screw 4pc
# 9805894 10mm Spacer 4pc
# 9804153 5.5 X 2mm Spacer 2pc
# 9804152 5.5 X 3mm Spacer 2pc
01-19-2009, 07:34 PM
#1242
Hey all,
I am selling my TA-05R. It's a great deal, all equipment worth over $1200. Asking $400 OBO.
http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...ml#post5315770
I am selling my TA-05R. It's a great deal, all equipment worth over $1200. Asking $400 OBO.
http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...ml#post5315770
01-19-2009, 08:18 PM
#1243
Are you looking for the arm or the hub? I looked up the prices, and it is not $65 for one arm on the Tamiyausa.com site. The Parts for the pro mod are:
# 1002 Pro-Module Suspension Arm 2pc
# 1003 Pro-Module Suspension Hub 2pc
# 9805611 5 X 9mm Ball Connector 2pc
# 53533 3 X 16mm Titanium Screw 4pc
# 9805894 10mm Spacer 4pc
# 9804153 5.5 X 2mm Spacer 2pc
# 9804152 5.5 X 3mm Spacer 2pc
# 1002 Pro-Module Suspension Arm 2pc
# 1003 Pro-Module Suspension Hub 2pc
# 9805611 5 X 9mm Ball Connector 2pc
# 53533 3 X 16mm Titanium Screw 4pc
# 9805894 10mm Spacer 4pc
# 9804153 5.5 X 2mm Spacer 2pc
# 9804152 5.5 X 3mm Spacer 2pc
I just looked the part on the website it states $33 for one arm.... Still pretty pricey!!!
01-22-2009, 05:55 PM
#1244
Xenon spur/pinions
A brief followup from an earlier post - I've swapped my front one-way for the solid axle (spool) and the car is now rock solid under braking. There does seem to be some sacrifice on turn-in, but until I've taken around the track (as opposed to the local netball court), it will be hard to quantify.
Anyway, I'm now looking for more flexibility in gearing, and think I need to swap the spur gear (105T) for something a little smaller. A local supplier has Xenon 48P spurs and matching pinions. Does anyone know if these are a direct swap for the Tamiya supplied bits?
Phil.
Anyway, I'm now looking for more flexibility in gearing, and think I need to swap the spur gear (105T) for something a little smaller. A local supplier has Xenon 48P spurs and matching pinions. Does anyone know if these are a direct swap for the Tamiya supplied bits?
Phil.
01-22-2009, 06:16 PM
#1245
A brief followup from an earlier post - I've swapped my front one-way for the solid axle (spool) and the car is now rock solid under braking. There does seem to be some sacrifice on turn-in, but until I've taken around the track (as opposed to the local netball court), it will be hard to quantify.