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Old 04-25-2007, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by YR4Dude
Okay then is he using something like a flex drive similar to a Dremel tool for the 90? Is the dampening separate of the springs? If so, is he using leaf springs?
I also wondered about flex drive, I see it in boats a lot. That way the alignment of Motor-shaft-prop don't have to be exactly perfect.
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Old 04-25-2007, 08:54 AM
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interesting prototype.
Best thing I can guess is that there is some sort of spring/dampening system in the Diff outdrives?
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Originally Posted by heretic
in the background we can see a chassis, maybe it can give us an idea of the specs of this mysterious car...
You can find the new information here:
http://rcauto.spb.ru/forum/index.php...pic=1337&st=20

http://rcauto.spb.ru/forum/index.php...e=post&id=3644
http://rcauto.spb.ru/forum/index.php...e=post&id=3645
http://rcauto.spb.ru/forum/index.php...e=post&id=3646
http://rcauto.spb.ru/forum/index.php...e=post&id=3647
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so now its a belt drive?!!?

what happened to the magical pinion link?

smells a bit fishy
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Old 05-05-2007, 02:28 PM
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Where's the suspension?
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Old 05-05-2007, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor A
Where's the suspension?
Shocks removed on photo with belt drive.
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can someone actually post the picstures i cant view them for some reason
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Old 05-05-2007, 05:55 PM
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Here are those pictures, they were RAR compressed.
Attached Thumbnails The prototype car is on the winning pace-img_4009_small.jpg   The prototype car is on the winning pace-img_4010_small.jpg   The prototype car is on the winning pace-img_4011_small.jpg   The prototype car is on the winning pace-img_4015_small.jpg  
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Old 05-05-2007, 06:37 PM
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I will stick with my X-Ray, you can use all the X-Ray parts you want, but it will never be as good as the origional
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Old 05-05-2007, 07:03 PM
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What happened to the shaft Yeah I'll stick with my 007
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Old 05-06-2007, 01:29 AM
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According to the primary source (russian forum) this sample has been made for tests and comparison of new suspension only.
Completely prepared chassis weight is 460 gr.

Originally Posted by Big B
....you can use all the X-Ray parts you want, but it will never be as good as the origional
T2 007 is great car but this suspension is faster on track now.
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Old 05-06-2007, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by BTW1
According to the primary source (russian forum) this sample has been made for tests and comparison of new suspension only.
Completely prepared chassis weight is 460 gr.


T2 007 is great car but this suspension is faster on track now.

Well that may be the case, but i think most people are interested in having a look at the suspension and the gearbox... so come on post a few pics
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BK bones !
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I remember a guy from the Chicago area actually built a car around similar ideas as this car. He used 4 spring steel arms--similar material to the pan car t bars silva sells- and 1/12 dampner tubes. I don't remeber what camber and caster system he used, but i think it was like this car, as he was a Trinity driver. I thought he used Schumacher hubs, since the old hubs were vertical pivot ball. HPI drive train too. I know he ran it at Cleveland, but I can't remember how he did. It makes sense that something like this could work, though I would bet it is even better on foam.
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It is translated from Russian forum:
http://rcauto.spb.ru/forum/index.php...opic=1337&st=0

Spring/dampening system features:

- Fast and simple smooth adjustment of shock-absorbers parameters over a wide range without change of oil and springs.
- An possibility of asymmetric action (compression resistance is 3 times less than resistance of a release on an existing sample)
- practically zero wearing and oil leaking
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Originally Posted by BTW1
It is translated from Russian forum:
http://rcauto.spb.ru/forum/index.php...opic=1337&st=0

Spring/dampening system features:

- Fast and simple smooth adjustment of shock-absorbers parameters over a wide range without change of oil and springs.
- An possibility of asymmetric action (compression resistance is 3 times less than resistance of a release on an existing sample)
- practically zero wearing and oil leaking

sounds interesting, but when are we going to see some photo's??
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Old 05-07-2007, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bs6ef
sounds interesting, but when are we going to see some photo's??

IMHO as soon as chassis designer will be sure about having his suspension pattented

Otherwise the pictures would be already here I guess...
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Could it be a time zone thing ?
May 7, USA
April 1, Russia ?
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Originally Posted by PaintingRoly
What happened to the shaft Yeah I'll stick with my 007
I second that question......after all of that yap about "efficiency, more than Tamiya DA" and all that stuff, it just look to being a weird, space-age looking touring, albeit different, car.
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It is definatly and interesting concept, I just don't think it will get any further than that, best of luck with it though, and I am sure if it is as great as you say we will be seeing them soon
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:34 AM
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It is visible that the suspension is pivot ball type instead of standard now C-hubs.
And the vertical rotary axis of a wheel is displaced inside of a wheel noticeably.
How can it affect controllability and behaviour of car?

What is Tamiya DA?
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Old 05-11-2007, 01:40 PM
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robk - His name was Dan Lewis. He made a few different cars like that - one with spring steel, another with fiberglass, another with graphite. I think he tried different dampening systems (shocks, tubes) but I'm not sure if made anything like Corally did on their F1 car.... I drove the car - super responsive and light but once we put weight in it and drove it on anything other than a glass smooth track it was a handfull....
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Josh, Dan still races 1/18 from what i hear...He was always a creative mind
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looking at the lower a arms, it would appear that the flex in the plates may serve as dampers. Different thicknesses or materials would have varying flexing charactersitics.
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Originally Posted by number_one
additional photos of the car:

http://forum.rcdesign.ru/index.php?a...=post&id=76974

http://forum.rcdesign.ru/index.php?a...=post&id=76975

The prototype is in the center (white car). On the left the driver finished second with Xray t2'007 and right Tamiya 415 MSX finished third.
Anyone can drive a MSX or T2'007 for it to beat...
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Old 05-12-2007, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Scho
Anyone can drive a MSX or T2'007 for it to beat...

i regularly beat t2'007 msx and cyclone's and i race a TC3 that is 3 seasons old, does this make my car any better than there's?????? I think not it just means i'm a slightly better driver or i cheat alot
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This prototype has TQ and won the international race in Finland recently.
Please look the race report here:
http://www.teamxray.com/teamxray/new...p?news_id=1307
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Originally Posted by Oleg Babich
This prototype has TQ and won the international race in Finland recently.
Please look the race report here:
http://www.teamxray.com/teamxray/new...p?news_id=1307
Hopefully it wasnt too confusing for the 2 Russians in front, both with white cars, "Russian" to the chequered flag hehe

sounds like the prototype works very well!
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Old 11-01-2007, 07:25 AM
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wow, old thread revived!

Any one know if there are any updates/news on this car? I would still like to see the shocks...
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how to do you dampen your magnetic shocks?
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