Team Magic E4 MDC
#1
Team Magic E4 MDC
http://www.teammagic.com.tw/en/newsf...09144029-65905
What did you think about this new car? I'm not sure about 3 belt design, and saddle battery configuration...
What did you think about this new car? I'm not sure about 3 belt design, and saddle battery configuration...
#2
The car looks very fantastic, ultra narrow chassis, perfect side to side balance, already modified ball ends...
#4
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I wonder how having everything close to the center-line ... and having only the speed control hanging off the edge of the chassis will effect handling. Adjustments by pre-loading the shocks will be needed. An interesting design - and different, but, if it will work is another ???
#5
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Its more refined than the last pictures I saw of this car.
The concept of keeping everything close to the centerline is important. However, Losi is able to do it with two belts yet this one is doing it with three. Anyways if they were to do it with two, everyone would say they were copying Losi.
I think this car still needs further refinement in regards to the steering and placement of the receiver. Also something needs to be done in centering the ESC. Perhaps they would have to design the car around the use of certain components that are small enough to fit. Like KO receiver & esc or even the new Spectrum micro receiver and so on. Obviously this will be marketed towards the highend racer so it should be geared towards highend electronics.
Also despite the fact it uses 6 cells in such a strange configuration, it may be able to use lipo packs of the same voltage except slimer and lighter. It may also be a better fit for 5 cells, which is currently being considered as the new standard.
As strange as this car looks, I wouldn't write it off yet given that there are many changes going out there on how electric cars are to be powered or the amount of power electric cars may have. Even with the three belt design, power from lipo and brushless can overcome any minimal losses from the extra belts.
The concept of keeping everything close to the centerline is important. However, Losi is able to do it with two belts yet this one is doing it with three. Anyways if they were to do it with two, everyone would say they were copying Losi.
I think this car still needs further refinement in regards to the steering and placement of the receiver. Also something needs to be done in centering the ESC. Perhaps they would have to design the car around the use of certain components that are small enough to fit. Like KO receiver & esc or even the new Spectrum micro receiver and so on. Obviously this will be marketed towards the highend racer so it should be geared towards highend electronics.
Also despite the fact it uses 6 cells in such a strange configuration, it may be able to use lipo packs of the same voltage except slimer and lighter. It may also be a better fit for 5 cells, which is currently being considered as the new standard.
As strange as this car looks, I wouldn't write it off yet given that there are many changes going out there on how electric cars are to be powered or the amount of power electric cars may have. Even with the three belt design, power from lipo and brushless can overcome any minimal losses from the extra belts.
#6
With the new generation of electronics available ie micro recievers,micro esc's .The weight of these items on the outside of chassis should have minimal effect to balance and CG.
With reference to 5 cell rule thats being dabated ,this chassis should lend itself well to that arrangement allowing space for esc and micro reciever closer inboard.
The car looks good ,how well it works is anothe question but TM have been doing there homework and will be taking note of what the feed back is on the car .
Going by the performance and improvements this year to the G4S I have confidence in the perfomance of the E4.
With reference to 5 cell rule thats being dabated ,this chassis should lend itself well to that arrangement allowing space for esc and micro reciever closer inboard.
The car looks good ,how well it works is anothe question but TM have been doing there homework and will be taking note of what the feed back is on the car .
Going by the performance and improvements this year to the G4S I have confidence in the perfomance of the E4.
#7
someone's in trouble
okay. i would guess that the web designer for team magic grabbed the wrong pictures. i'm not sure how, though. those should have been archived here:
C:\Projects\Team Majic\Archives\1998\Electric\Prototype
C:\Projects\Team Majic\Archives\1998\Electric\Prototype
#8
Originally Posted by seaball
okay. i would guess that the web designer for team magic grabbed the wrong pictures. i'm not sure how, though. those should have been archived here:
C:\Projects\Team Majic\Archives\1998\Electric\Prototype
C:\Projects\Team Majic\Archives\1998\Electric\Prototype
Nice, and very true!!!
#9
team trinity
hey all:the new team magic 4wd electric sedan looks interesting to say the least we'll just have to see how it catches on with consumers and racers alike?looks like trinity is getting into distributing cars rather than make their owne for the most part.i've heard they will be distributors for team magic and team crc if what i hear is correct?any input will help thanks
#10
FSR used to make an electric touring car with three belts that was very similar to this! The only real difference is all the aluminum this car uses and the battery layout. The FSR Bullet used a normal saddle pack layout, it was one of the narrowest saddle chassis I ever saw at the time, the batterys were very close to touching in the middle of the chassis. You lose effeciency with more blets though, was a problem in stock class, didn't really notice much in mod. Tech also made a three belt design car called the Voggerd or something close to that name.
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Interesting indeed.
but no place to fit a brushless speedo.
It looks like kind of a bit of a dice roll to place a speedo on plastic wings that may get hit during racing.
but other than that quite an interesing layout and a very nice prototype. Do love all the bling factor
but no place to fit a brushless speedo.
It looks like kind of a bit of a dice roll to place a speedo on plastic wings that may get hit during racing.
but other than that quite an interesing layout and a very nice prototype. Do love all the bling factor
#12
Originally Posted by olhipster1
Interesting indeed.
but no place to fit a brushless speedo.
It looks like kind of a bit of a dice roll to place a speedo on plastic wings that may get hit during racing.
but other than that quite an interesing layout and a very nice prototype. Do love all the bling factor
but no place to fit a brushless speedo.
It looks like kind of a bit of a dice roll to place a speedo on plastic wings that may get hit during racing.
but other than that quite an interesing layout and a very nice prototype. Do love all the bling factor
#14
Tech Apprentice
Originally Posted by b-man777
i've heard they will be distributors for team magic and team crc if what i hear is correct?any input will help thanks
Yes they are. Magic stuff already on Trinity's site, CRC soon.
#15
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Yes, Tech Racing had a 3 belts touring called "T-10 Voggerd". A beautiful chassis but motor is off centerline.
FSR was a flop... pivot ball suspension on EP touring never worked well.
I prefer 4 cells instead of the new European standard, 5 cells. A bit retard to have 3 different battery configurations if I race 1/12, EP touring and 1/10 buggy.
FSR was a flop... pivot ball suspension on EP touring never worked well.
Originally Posted by WailinOnYa
Tech also made a three belt design car called the Voggerd or something close to that name.
Originally Posted by YR4Dude
Also despite the fact it uses 6 cells in such a strange configuration, it may be able to use lipo packs of the same voltage except slimer and lighter. It may also be a better fit for 5 cells, which is currently being considered as the new standard.