Losi 8ight building and setup
03-28-2007, 12:52 PM
#2671
Originally Posted by Kcdzim
3. You're running the second hardest spring with a heavier (aluminum) shoe (so with centripedal force it kicks out earlier than a plastic shoe). It's going to engage towards the slightly later (higher rpm) than the middle between the two extremes (all plastic with gold being the latest [highest rpm], all aluminum with green being earliest [lowest rpm]).
the highest you could go would be all carbons with silvers
and lowest would be all alloy with blacks.
03-28-2007, 01:42 PM
#2672
Here is a couple of pics of my linkage, I have between 7 & 8 gallons with no servo issue.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a43...e/linkage1.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a43...e/linkage2.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a43...e/linkage3.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a43...e/linkage1.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a43...e/linkage2.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a43...e/linkage3.jpg
03-28-2007, 01:50 PM
#2673
Originally Posted by micrors4guy
you have your spring rates mixed up. the silvers are the strongest. then golds then green then black.
the highest you could go would be all carbons with silvers
and lowest would be all alloy with blacks.
the highest you could go would be all carbons with silvers
and lowest would be all alloy with blacks.
* Silver: .040 wire with 30 degree angle
* Gold: .040 wire with 25 degree angle
* Black: .036 wire with 30 degree angle
* Green: .036 wire with 25 degree angle
Logically, if the difference between silver and gold is a 5 degree drop to make gold softer, than the switch between black and green should be the same relationship.
If silver is strongest (and I'll submit that it is), green is still softest, not black. Unless you can explain why it wouldn't behave like gold and silver.
03-28-2007, 02:36 PM
#2675
Originally Posted by Kcdzim
Ah, ok, I can see I may have gotten silver and gold switched, but I don't believe black is softest if silver is hardest...
* Silver: .040 wire with 30 degree angle
* Gold: .040 wire with 25 degree angle
* Black: .036 wire with 30 degree angle
* Green: .036 wire with 25 degree angle
Logically, if the difference between silver and gold is a 5 degree drop to make gold softer, than the switch between black and green should be the same relationship.
If silver is strongest (and I'll submit that it is), green is still softest, not black. Unless you can explain why it wouldn't behave like gold and silver.
* Silver: .040 wire with 30 degree angle
* Gold: .040 wire with 25 degree angle
* Black: .036 wire with 30 degree angle
* Green: .036 wire with 25 degree angle
Logically, if the difference between silver and gold is a 5 degree drop to make gold softer, than the switch between black and green should be the same relationship.
If silver is strongest (and I'll submit that it is), green is still softest, not black. Unless you can explain why it wouldn't behave like gold and silver.
03-28-2007, 02:46 PM
#2677
From amain hobbies website Spring chart
Spring chart:
Silver: .040 wire with 30 degree angle
Gold: .040 wire with 25 degree angle
Black: .036 wire with 30 degree angle
Green: .036 wire with 25 degree angle
Spring chart:
Silver: .040 wire with 30 degree angle
Gold: .040 wire with 25 degree angle
Black: .036 wire with 30 degree angle
Green: .036 wire with 25 degree angle
03-28-2007, 02:50 PM
#2678
Originally Posted by micrors4guy
yep... matt explained the reason.
Well then someone please inform every online retailer that is listing strengths that they're all wrong...
considering I copied that list from amainhobbies, and checked with bmainhobbies as well... and I submit this as further evidence
03-28-2007, 02:58 PM
#2679
Wow, you guys are using those soft springs that much. They were way too soft for me. I'm just using the silver & golds or just silvers.
03-28-2007, 03:09 PM
#2681
Originally Posted by micrors4guy
Softest -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> Hardest
Black Green Gold Silver
that from the manual and from carolinas rc.
Black Green Gold Silver
that from the manual and from carolinas rc.
03-28-2007, 03:33 PM
#2682
Originally Posted by Kcdzim
Ok, I'm not as confident in amain and bmain now, but you do realize the manual has bearings listed incorrectly. I'm not taking the printed manual as gospel, but I am downloading it to check.
alright, dag nabit.... I found an authority on the subject... not that I don't believe you all or anything...
http://www.thedrake.net/bbpress/topi...d=1278&page=18
Originally Posted by Adam Drake
Adam Drake
Member
JellyRacer- The current diff set-up you are running will have very little off power steering, but should have good on-power steering. That set-up won't be good in the bumps. Lighter front diff oil will have more off-power steering and less on- power steering. The center diff does effect steering, but mainly controls the amount of drive or punch the buggy has. Thick diff oil will have more punch. The lighter the rear diff fluid the more steering you will have in the middle of the turn.
Brain Muffin- I usually would shim the diffs with two to three shims on the left (tighter) and one shim on the other side.
CoryD- Yes, I run the stock clutch set-up from the 8ight, but with a 13 tooth clutch bell.
Silver .040 wire with 30 degree angle Hardest
Gold .040 wire with 25 degree angle
Green .036 wire with 30 degree angle
Black .036 wire with 25 degree angle. Softest
Make sure you scotch bright the inside of the clutch bell if you are running 2 plastic and 2 alum shoes. Also use motor spray to clean the inner clutch bearing. The 13 tooth clutch bell will help with clutch wear, but you may also want try running the following spring / shoe set-up.
2 plastics shoes with 2 black springs.
2 alum. shoes with 2 gold springs.
If the clutch is slipping make sure you stop running the buggy and go to lighter springs before you damage the clutch shoes.
Posted: 2006-10-12 04:54:59
Member
JellyRacer- The current diff set-up you are running will have very little off power steering, but should have good on-power steering. That set-up won't be good in the bumps. Lighter front diff oil will have more off-power steering and less on- power steering. The center diff does effect steering, but mainly controls the amount of drive or punch the buggy has. Thick diff oil will have more punch. The lighter the rear diff fluid the more steering you will have in the middle of the turn.
Brain Muffin- I usually would shim the diffs with two to three shims on the left (tighter) and one shim on the other side.
CoryD- Yes, I run the stock clutch set-up from the 8ight, but with a 13 tooth clutch bell.
Silver .040 wire with 30 degree angle Hardest
Gold .040 wire with 25 degree angle
Green .036 wire with 30 degree angle
Black .036 wire with 25 degree angle. Softest
Make sure you scotch bright the inside of the clutch bell if you are running 2 plastic and 2 alum shoes. Also use motor spray to clean the inner clutch bearing. The 13 tooth clutch bell will help with clutch wear, but you may also want try running the following spring / shoe set-up.
2 plastics shoes with 2 black springs.
2 alum. shoes with 2 gold springs.
If the clutch is slipping make sure you stop running the buggy and go to lighter springs before you damage the clutch shoes.
Posted: 2006-10-12 04:54:59
But, to be fair, Amain and Bmain hobbies are as reputable a source as carolina, and other than part number order, as far as I saw the manual gives no mention of black and green springs (because the pro's use gold and silver).
I relent, however, to your authority and will go back to the painting boards making sure people don't thin faskolor with water. le sigh... I really just hate it when my high horse is just a saw horse. and my saw just cut through it.
So let it be known, throughout the land... the springeth strengeth goeth black, green, gold, silver...
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