Serpent 720
02-25-2007, 07:18 PM
#1951
Walter and I ran the chassis with the plate on. Well be testing the car without the plate next week at another race track.
02-25-2007, 08:13 PM
#1952
I was looking at the Serpent site and saw part (803187) Break pully one way. Is that setup to make the 720 act like it has a center diff ??? If so, would that part compliment a front oneway and make it have the same characteristics as a gear diff but with a posi ?
I'm interested!
I'm interested!
02-25-2007, 08:49 PM
#1953
Originally Posted by GHETTOTEACHER
I was looking at the Serpent site and saw part (803187) Break pully one way. Is that setup to make the 720 act like it has a center diff ??? If so, would that part compliment a front oneway and make it have the same characteristics as a gear diff but with a posi ?
I'm interested!
I'm interested!
I orderd mine yesterday from the-border
02-25-2007, 09:13 PM
#1954
Originally Posted by rcpanama
Hi, did you take the carbon plate off?
RCPANAMA
RCPANAMA
Anyways, in my case there was no way to use the chassis without the plate since I had to disconnect the front slwaybar to prevent from traction rolling.
02-25-2007, 11:09 PM
#1955
Originally Posted by GHETTOTEACHER
I was looking at the Serpent site and saw part (803187) Break pully one way. Is that setup to make the 720 act like it has a center diff ??? If so, would that part compliment a front oneway and make it have the same characteristics as a gear diff but with a posi ?
I'm interested!
I'm interested!
Its not a diff action. It will be engage only if the brake and trottle applied.
During off trottle the car will glide very free just like asuming the middle belt is taken off.
If using this with one way It does not make any big different but smoother because it will disengage the rear transmission with the middle belt.
02-26-2007, 05:13 AM
#1956
Tech Adept
Originally Posted by Julius
The idea of this option is to improve drivetrain efficiency and smother off throttle handling.
When you run a longer main, you will get different wear rates front and rear. Most of the time you will wear the reas faster than front. In the long run this will mean the drivetrain gets bound up, as the fronts will want to turn slower than rear. The 3rd one way as we call it helps to free up the drive train during off power phases (like coasting through corners). This helps to smooth out the handling mid corner.
It feels sort of running a front one way (when you are actually running a diff) without losing the braking power.
Also because of the way the 3rd one way is setup, you will also find you get more steering under braking when running a diff or spool up front.
When you run a longer main, you will get different wear rates front and rear. Most of the time you will wear the reas faster than front. In the long run this will mean the drivetrain gets bound up, as the fronts will want to turn slower than rear. The 3rd one way as we call it helps to free up the drive train during off power phases (like coasting through corners). This helps to smooth out the handling mid corner.
It feels sort of running a front one way (when you are actually running a diff) without losing the braking power.
Also because of the way the 3rd one way is setup, you will also find you get more steering under braking when running a diff or spool up front.
02-26-2007, 06:07 AM
#1957
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Originally Posted by Julius
The idea of this option is to improve drivetrain efficiency and smother off throttle handling.
When you run a longer main, you will get different wear rates front and rear. Most of the time you will wear the reas faster than front. In the long run this will mean the drivetrain gets bound up, as the fronts will want to turn slower than rear. The 3rd one way as we call it helps to free up the drive train during off power phases (like coasting through corners). This helps to smooth out the handling mid corner.
It feels sort of running a front one way (when you are actually running a diff) without losing the braking power.
Also because of the way the 3rd one way is setup, you will also find you get more steering under braking when running a diff or spool up front.
When you run a longer main, you will get different wear rates front and rear. Most of the time you will wear the reas faster than front. In the long run this will mean the drivetrain gets bound up, as the fronts will want to turn slower than rear. The 3rd one way as we call it helps to free up the drive train during off power phases (like coasting through corners). This helps to smooth out the handling mid corner.
It feels sort of running a front one way (when you are actually running a diff) without losing the braking power.
Also because of the way the 3rd one way is setup, you will also find you get more steering under braking when running a diff or spool up front.
Thanks Julius......so let me ask you,would you still be able to run an overdrive set up?...
02-26-2007, 06:21 AM
#1958
Test of new chassis
I will be testing de car with the new chassis on March 11, so as soon as I have a result will posted in this forum.
This is my 720
RCPANAMA
This is my 720
RCPANAMA
02-26-2007, 06:30 AM
#1959
RCPANAMA, what's that thing on rx battery cable.. it seems to be a good protection against rubbing..
Asil
Asil
02-26-2007, 06:41 AM
#1960
Originally Posted by asil
RCPANAMA, what's that thing on rx battery cable.. it seems to be a good protection against rubbing..
Asil
Asil
This is an example http://www.flexowrap.com/pdf_files/catalog/pet.pdf
RCPANAMA
02-26-2007, 04:51 PM
#1961
Originally Posted by rcpanama
I will be testing de car with the new chassis on March 11, so as soon as I have a result will posted in this forum.
This is my 720
RCPANAMA
This is my 720
RCPANAMA
02-27-2007, 12:37 PM
#1962
Originally Posted by eduardo_garcia
Using this option we loose the brake on the rear tires? If we loose (I guess so), the brakes will be less eficient.....
02-27-2007, 12:59 PM
#1963
Tech Adept
Originally Posted by captian
i think you are miss under standing how it works you have to see on the car or how the assembly looks. it does not take away any more brake than you put on or take off . its a tunning option it may not work for every one driving style
Can anybody confirm it for me?
regards
Eduardo
02-27-2007, 01:09 PM
#1964
Originally Posted by eduardo_garcia
Well... It is a oneway on de 24t pulley. It means that the oneway will engage on the on-throttle scenario. When you apply the brake, the oneway will desengage..Isn't it correct? I mean, with this optional we will only have brakes on the front wheels.....
Can anybody confirm it for me?
regards
Eduardo
Can anybody confirm it for me?
regards
Eduardo
02-28-2007, 02:09 AM
#1965
Tech Adept
New Ackerman
Hi Guys
Does anybody have more info on the new ackerman for the 720? For example, the diff insert positions and the result of each insert position. Which position will give you more steering and which insert position will give you less steering?
Thanks
Acid
Does anybody have more info on the new ackerman for the 720? For example, the diff insert positions and the result of each insert position. Which position will give you more steering and which insert position will give you less steering?
Thanks
Acid
02-28-2007, 04:54 AM
#1966
Originally Posted by eduardo_garcia
Well... It is a oneway on de 24t pulley. It means that the oneway will engage on the on-throttle scenario. When you apply the brake, the oneway will desengage..Isn't it correct? I mean, with this optional we will only have brakes on the front wheels.....
Can anybody confirm it for me?
regards
Eduardo
Can anybody confirm it for me?
regards
Eduardo
02-28-2007, 07:47 AM
#1967
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Originally Posted by Julius
The thing you are missing is that the brake disk is connected to the 24t pulley directly and not via the one way. That means that when you brake the rear wheels will always brake. And only when the fronts are turning faster than the rear (which would be the case when the rear starts to lock up) the fronts will brake too. This has the effect that you lose less steering under braking!
hi julias....would it still be possible to overdrive the car using the one way brake pulley?
02-28-2007, 08:00 AM
#1968
Originally Posted by fastharry
hi julias....would it still be possible to overdrive the car using the one way brake pulley?
Asil
02-28-2007, 08:13 AM
#1969
Tech Adept
Originally Posted by fastharry
hi julias....would it still be possible to overdrive the car using the one way brake pulley?
Thanks Julius for your support. That's why serpent rocks...
02-28-2007, 11:33 AM
#1970
Tech Regular
Originally Posted by Paolo M
Setup 720 Ft Myers
Hi Guys,
Attached you will find the setup i use at the race. It is pretty much the same we had posted at the race. We basically change the front springs.
Please don't hesitate in asking any question. I may take a little to answer but i will try my best
Happy Racing and Enjoy
Hi Guys,
Attached you will find the setup i use at the race. It is pretty much the same we had posted at the race. We basically change the front springs.
Please don't hesitate in asking any question. I may take a little to answer but i will try my best
Happy Racing and Enjoy
Hi Paolo: did you made a tire change on the final? looking at your times I can see a looong pit stop or did you had a problem on the track.
Regards from Peru!!!
02-28-2007, 12:16 PM
#1971
Does anyone know if Serpent is going to offer a 720 to 720 07 update/conversion kit?
Thanks!
Thanks!
02-28-2007, 12:58 PM
#1972
Originally Posted by rmdhawaii
Does anyone know if Serpent is going to offer a 720 to 720 07 update/conversion kit?
Thanks!
Thanks!
DJ Apolaro
02-28-2007, 01:03 PM
#1973
Tech Adept
Originally Posted by dj apolaro
Not sure if they will offer a kit, but the items will be available to purchase. I also sent you an e-mail with the info you requested. If was too big for the PM mail
DJ Apolaro
DJ Apolaro
Can you please post the list of itens here?
regards
Eduardo
02-28-2007, 01:08 PM
#1974
Originally Posted by eduardo_garcia
Hi DJ:
Can you please post the list of itens here?
regards
Eduardo
Can you please post the list of itens here?
regards
Eduardo
DJ Apolaro
02-28-2007, 01:17 PM
#1975
Tech Adept
Originally Posted by eduardo_garcia
Yes, it would be my next question. When the front tires are smaller than the rears, the front will always turn faster then the rears. On this scenario, the oneway will be engaged even on off throtle. when the rear tire is smaller than the front, the oneway will always be disconected (the rear would turn faster then the front). May be this is the purpouse of this hop up, it may equalize the tire wear. Good discussion...
Thanks Julius for your support. That's why serpent rocks...
Thanks Julius for your support. That's why serpent rocks...
02-28-2007, 01:19 PM
#1976
Originally Posted by dj apolaro
Not sure if they will offer a kit, but the items will be available to purchase.
Originally Posted by dj apolaro
I also sent you an e-mail with the info you requested. If was too big for the PM mail
DJ Apolaro
DJ Apolaro
02-28-2007, 01:29 PM
#1977
Tech Adept
Not sure if I'm completely correct, but it looks like the differences in the 720 '07 are: black chassis, nylon adjusting nuts (pivot balls), CVDs up front, adjustable ackerman servo saver, and a "Lemans type" bumper as an extra...
02-28-2007, 01:33 PM
#1978
Originally Posted by Luke W
Not sure if I'm completely correct, but it looks like the differences in the 720 '07 are: black chassis, nylon adjusting nuts (pivot balls), CVDs up front, adjustable ackerman servo saver, and a "Lemans type" bumper as an extra...
Also the "upgraded fuel tank with o-ring sealed AFL lid" and the "new hard plastic suspension parts".
Here's what it says on the website:
The Serpent 720 07 in Brief
The new main features of the Serpent 720 '07 are the inclusion of front CVD shafts, extra one way front shaft with lock set, nylon adjustable pivot ball nuts, upgraded fuel tank with o-ring sealed AFL lid, servo saver with adjustable Ackerman, new hard plastic suspension parts and a new black anodised chassis plate.
02-28-2007, 01:34 PM
#1979
Luke ,
Hows those CVD's holding up?
Mine are doing Great...A big Plus added to my car.
Hows those CVD's holding up?
Mine are doing Great...A big Plus added to my car.
02-28-2007, 01:54 PM
#1980
Originally Posted by 1FastSerpent
Luke ,
Hows those CVD's holding up? Mine are doing Great...A big Plus added to my car.
Hows those CVD's holding up?
Mine are doing Great...A big Plus added to my car.The description says:
Driveshafts
The 720 '07 comes supplied with the finest Spring Steel driveshafts capable of withstanding constant punishment; these shafts are ultra durable and very stiff allowing you to put all your power to the tarmac. The rear of this car uses dogbones while the front uses the supplied CVD shafts.
I'm not sure what the part number of the "new" CVD (OR if it's even new for that matter). However, here's how the "old" CVDs look like:
http://www.serpent.com/image.php?ImageID=40456&size=350
And the "new" ones that's included in the 720 07 look like this:
http://www.serpent.com/image.php?Ima...68125&size=350
They look different and may be new and the description says spring steel material.