BMI Racing "Copperhead 12" discussion and support
#2356
Tech Fanatic
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Straight line speed doesn't count for much in club racing, I gear for rip, top speed don't matter.
If they are changing tires every run, so should you.
Bring 3 sets, one for each heat, and one for the main.
Rotate those out, and use em next week.
At the big races when the grip is insane, that's the go.
The tires get too sticky, and it takes time for them to dry out.
Foam tires are sponge like
90% of the setup is tire choice & prep.
If they are changing tires every run, so should you.
Bring 3 sets, one for each heat, and one for the main.
Rotate those out, and use em next week.
At the big races when the grip is insane, that's the go.
The tires get too sticky, and it takes time for them to dry out.
Foam tires are sponge like
90% of the setup is tire choice & prep.
Kevin Jelich, Steve Blair and myself
#2357
Tech Master
iTrader: (13)
Infinite thanks for posting that because I have been meaning to ask this question for some time but keep forgetting.
What does it mean when the inside rear tire lifts or it sounds like the car diffs out (maybe/probably at the same time)? I am running 2 lube on BMI front end and 4 in the rear tubes. If I recall correctly I have tried to go up and down one time on the lube but did not make a difference if I recall correctly.
What does it mean when the inside rear tire lifts or it sounds like the car diffs out (maybe/probably at the same time)? I am running 2 lube on BMI front end and 4 in the rear tubes. If I recall correctly I have tried to go up and down one time on the lube but did not make a difference if I recall correctly.
#2358
With the lighter link cars does when the grip goes up do they traction roll or wheel lift? Or do they get slidy?
At briggs cuningham in costa mesa we would grind a set each heat and also at Cambell we would use one set per heat for perfect car every round
Kevin Jelich, Steve Blair and myself
At briggs cuningham in costa mesa we would grind a set each heat and also at Cambell we would use one set per heat for perfect car every round
Kevin Jelich, Steve Blair and myself
#2359
Infinite thanks for posting that because I have been meaning to ask this question for some time but keep forgetting.
What does it mean when the inside rear tire lifts or it sounds like the car diffs out (maybe/probably at the same time)? I am running 2 lube on BMI front end and 4 in the rear tubes. If I recall correctly I have tried to go up and down one time on the lube but did not make a difference if I recall correctly.
What does it mean when the inside rear tire lifts or it sounds like the car diffs out (maybe/probably at the same time)? I am running 2 lube on BMI front end and 4 in the rear tubes. If I recall correctly I have tried to go up and down one time on the lube but did not make a difference if I recall correctly.
#2360
Tech Regular
Infinite thanks for posting that because I have been meaning to ask this question for some time but keep forgetting.
What does it mean when the inside rear tire lifts or it sounds like the car diffs out (maybe/probably at the same time)? I am running 2 lube on BMI front end and 4 in the rear tubes. If I recall correctly I have tried to go up and down one time on the lube but did not make a difference if I recall correctly.
What does it mean when the inside rear tire lifts or it sounds like the car diffs out (maybe/probably at the same time)? I am running 2 lube on BMI front end and 4 in the rear tubes. If I recall correctly I have tried to go up and down one time on the lube but did not make a difference if I recall correctly.
steve Dunn
Indianapolis
#2361
I would increase the front dampening to #6 and decrease the rear to #3. Usually when the car is diffing out, It is because the rear damping is too heavy and making the inside tire lift because the front is digging too hard. Going lighter on the tube lube will reduce the amount of force applied to the front tires in a corner. Hope this helps.
#2362
Tech Addict
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OK Sunday is coming around I fliped my wheel nuts and got my car to 167.9 front width and 172 rear width. So I'm going run that then try
Orange rears
Gold center spring (currently have blue with 40wt oil)
Possibly going up to maybe 50k tube lube if I can find some(has shur lube 4 now)
Stiffen up side plates maybe run fiberglass or use the short holes in the thin carbon plates
6 deg caster
Does anyone have another tips to try also can anyone explain which way the flex plates go from softest to stiffest?
Orange rears
Gold center spring (currently have blue with 40wt oil)
Possibly going up to maybe 50k tube lube if I can find some(has shur lube 4 now)
Stiffen up side plates maybe run fiberglass or use the short holes in the thin carbon plates
6 deg caster
Does anyone have another tips to try also can anyone explain which way the flex plates go from softest to stiffest?
#2363
To set the flex plates to the stiffer setting you need to move the stand offs to the second hole (closer to the rear of the car).
Just re-read yor post, I gave the wrong answer.
1.2 cf
Fiberglass (stock)
1.5 cf
E
Just re-read yor post, I gave the wrong answer.
1.2 cf
Fiberglass (stock)
1.5 cf
E
#2364
OK Sunday is coming around I fliped my wheel nuts and got my car to 167.9 front width and 172 rear width. So I'm going run that then try
Orange rears
Gold center spring (currently have blue with 40wt oil)
Possibly going up to maybe 50k tube lube if I can find some(has shur lube 4 now)
Stiffen up side plates maybe run fiberglass or use the short holes in the thin carbon plates
6 deg caster
Does anyone have another tips to try also can anyone explain which way the flex plates go from softest to stiffest?
Orange rears
Gold center spring (currently have blue with 40wt oil)
Possibly going up to maybe 50k tube lube if I can find some(has shur lube 4 now)
Stiffen up side plates maybe run fiberglass or use the short holes in the thin carbon plates
6 deg caster
Does anyone have another tips to try also can anyone explain which way the flex plates go from softest to stiffest?
#2366
Doesn't matter. Try a change, if you like it move on to the next, if not put it back and try a different one. Car tuning is a changing art. I've been doing it for 30 years and I still learn new stuff and new approaches all the time. It's about finding a combination that works for you.
#2367
Tech Regular
OK Sunday is coming around I fliped my wheel nuts and got my car to 167.9 front width and 172 rear width. So I'm going run that then try
Orange rears
Gold center spring (currently have blue with 40wt oil)
Possibly going up to maybe 50k tube lube if I can find some(has shur lube 4 now)
Stiffen up side plates maybe run fiberglass or use the short holes in the thin carbon plates
6 deg caster
Does anyone have another tips to try also can anyone explain which way the flex plates go from softest to stiffest?
Orange rears
Gold center spring (currently have blue with 40wt oil)
Possibly going up to maybe 50k tube lube if I can find some(has shur lube 4 now)
Stiffen up side plates maybe run fiberglass or use the short holes in the thin carbon plates
6 deg caster
Does anyone have another tips to try also can anyone explain which way the flex plates go from softest to stiffest?
Steve Dunn
Indianapolis, IN
#2368
Tech Elite
iTrader: (84)
OK Sunday is coming around I fliped my wheel nuts and got my car to 167.9 front width and 172 rear width. So I'm going run that then try
Orange rears
Gold center spring (currently have blue with 40wt oil)
Possibly going up to maybe 50k tube lube if I can find some(has shur lube 4 now)
Stiffen up side plates maybe run fiberglass or use the short holes in the thin carbon plates
6 deg caster
Does anyone have another tips to try also can anyone explain which way the flex plates go from softest to stiffest?
Orange rears
Gold center spring (currently have blue with 40wt oil)
Possibly going up to maybe 50k tube lube if I can find some(has shur lube 4 now)
Stiffen up side plates maybe run fiberglass or use the short holes in the thin carbon plates
6 deg caster
Does anyone have another tips to try also can anyone explain which way the flex plates go from softest to stiffest?
#2369
Tech Lord
iTrader: (103)
Softest would be 1.2 plate in the long position, then 1.2 in the short postion, then 1.5 in the long postion, stiffest would be 1.5 plate in the short postion. I could be wrong but I dont think Jason makes any fiberglass plates for the CH, those went away when he went to CF plates. I would not recomend any more changes untill you see how these affect the car.
#2370
Tech Addict
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Thanks jeff im hoping getting the width of the car right will help it rotate and then maybe i can just mess with castor and keep the rear soft like it is.
This is my 4th week and just trying get closer to the pace of everyone else im at 44 laps there at 48 so if i could least get 46 this weekend id be happy
This is my 4th week and just trying get closer to the pace of everyone else im at 44 laps there at 48 so if i could least get 46 this weekend id be happy