4LikesReflex Suspension Dynamics (RSD) TC6 Upgrades (vertical ball studs, pistons,etc)
11-05-2012, 12:53 PM
#1697
I am using the 6.1 with a gear diff in the rear and a spool in the front. The front blades are breaking. If I increase the negative camber in the front (making the blades go deeper into the slots then it helps a little). But the blades are right at the edge of the hub slots and are breaking/popping out.
EDIT: I meant maybe the front of the car is too wide.
-Mike
Last edited by grippgoat; 11-05-2012 at 02:23 PM.
11-05-2012, 11:56 PM
#1698
Tech Regular
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So, I have been testing some 6 hole pistons lately. And so far I really like them 
I have been testing a 6x1.2 hole piston with 900cst oil in them with some really good results. What I have noticed is a car that is much more calm and switches directions quicker than with a 3 hole piston. My typical piston set-up is 3x1.1 with 450CST. When comparing back to back, lap times were similar, however the 6 hole piston rolled in a more controlled manner and was better in chicanes when switching directions. The result was a much easier to drive car that seems smoother and soaks up bumps better. The true test will be this weekend at our other track which has a high speed section that is very bumpy. Here, I have been running a 3x1.1 tapered piston to soak up the bumps.
We have liked them so much in testing, that we do think it is a valuable tuning aid so we are producing a variety of different hole patterns.
We are going to release:
6x1.1 (611)
6x1.2 (612)
6x1.3 (613)
I still have not had a chance to test the 1.3 hole, which I am dying to since this is the hole pattern HARA ran in his TCXX at the worlds with 2000cst in the shocks. I will report sometime later this week once I get to test them.
The servo mounts will arrive next week in like 7-10 days. We had a problem with the production, so we had to have them re-made.
We also will be posting our new 17.0 lb springs this week (orange), these are slightly stiffer than the purples and are great on high grip asphalt tracks. We also have another spring coming in next week which should be softer than the purple.
I have been testing a 6x1.2 hole piston with 900cst oil in them with some really good results. What I have noticed is a car that is much more calm and switches directions quicker than with a 3 hole piston. My typical piston set-up is 3x1.1 with 450CST. When comparing back to back, lap times were similar, however the 6 hole piston rolled in a more controlled manner and was better in chicanes when switching directions. The result was a much easier to drive car that seems smoother and soaks up bumps better. The true test will be this weekend at our other track which has a high speed section that is very bumpy. Here, I have been running a 3x1.1 tapered piston to soak up the bumps.
We have liked them so much in testing, that we do think it is a valuable tuning aid so we are producing a variety of different hole patterns.
We are going to release:
6x1.1 (611)
6x1.2 (612)
6x1.3 (613)
I still have not had a chance to test the 1.3 hole, which I am dying to since this is the hole pattern HARA ran in his TCXX at the worlds with 2000cst in the shocks. I will report sometime later this week once I get to test them.
The servo mounts will arrive next week in like 7-10 days. We had a problem with the production, so we had to have them re-made.
We also will be posting our new 17.0 lb springs this week (orange), these are slightly stiffer than the purples and are great on high grip asphalt tracks. We also have another spring coming in next week which should be softer than the purple.
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11-07-2012, 06:48 AM
#1699
Okay guys,
I have just read the last thirty pages of this thread to get caught up to date. I enjoy TC racing but just do it in the three cold months we have. Around here we don't have any outside racing other than offroad so I run my Losi 2.0 buggy from Mar to Nov. I have a TC6 that I bought last fall just before the 6.1 came out. I took it to the Snowbirds and had an awful time because I fought setup the whole time. At the time I didn't realize how different the 6 and 6.1 were in roll center setup and my buddies were giving me 6.1 numbers and I did lousy....... You know how hard it is to find a setup while at the Birds..... track time is non-existent. The next weekend I made the 3 hour trek to Nashvilles Thunder raceway and raised the rear RC two notches and WALLAAAA.... The car all of a sudden came to life and was a joy to drive. Now shortly after that I switched to offroad for the summer and haven't raced TC since.
My question is this....... I have a RSD6 kit from this summer but haven't put it on yet. Most of the setups on here seem to be 6.1 based and I understand why. What should I do????? I am afraid to loose my TC6 setup and car that ran so great last time IF I convert it. Would I be able to get a 6.0 setup for the RSD?? Should I just buy a used 6.1 and convert it so I can use current info??? What do I still need that didn't come in the first RSD kit? Is the bellcrank setup different?
Sorry for so many questions.... I have a head full at the moment....
I have just read the last thirty pages of this thread to get caught up to date. I enjoy TC racing but just do it in the three cold months we have. Around here we don't have any outside racing other than offroad so I run my Losi 2.0 buggy from Mar to Nov. I have a TC6 that I bought last fall just before the 6.1 came out. I took it to the Snowbirds and had an awful time because I fought setup the whole time. At the time I didn't realize how different the 6 and 6.1 were in roll center setup and my buddies were giving me 6.1 numbers and I did lousy....... You know how hard it is to find a setup while at the Birds..... track time is non-existent. The next weekend I made the 3 hour trek to Nashvilles Thunder raceway and raised the rear RC two notches and WALLAAAA.... The car all of a sudden came to life and was a joy to drive. Now shortly after that I switched to offroad for the summer and haven't raced TC since.
My question is this....... I have a RSD6 kit from this summer but haven't put it on yet. Most of the setups on here seem to be 6.1 based and I understand why. What should I do????? I am afraid to loose my TC6 setup and car that ran so great last time IF I convert it. Would I be able to get a 6.0 setup for the RSD?? Should I just buy a used 6.1 and convert it so I can use current info??? What do I still need that didn't come in the first RSD kit? Is the bellcrank setup different?
Sorry for so many questions.... I have a head full at the moment....
11-07-2012, 08:18 AM
#1700
Piston O.D. = 9.90mm
Shock shaft hole is either 2.50mm or 3.10mm depending on which shaft you use (RCXX or RCM shcok)
Let me know what you can do or what might work.
Thanks
11-08-2012, 12:56 PM
#1702
Okay guys,
I have just read the last thirty pages of this thread to get caught up to date. I enjoy TC racing but just do it in the three cold months we have. Around here we don't have any outside racing other than offroad so I run my Losi 2.0 buggy from Mar to Nov. I have a TC6 that I bought last fall just before the 6.1 came out. I took it to the Snowbirds and had an awful time because I fought setup the whole time. At the time I didn't realize how different the 6 and 6.1 were in roll center setup and my buddies were giving me 6.1 numbers and I did lousy....... You know how hard it is to find a setup while at the Birds..... track time is non-existent. The next weekend I made the 3 hour trek to Nashvilles Thunder raceway and raised the rear RC two notches and WALLAAAA.... The car all of a sudden came to life and was a joy to drive. Now shortly after that I switched to offroad for the summer and haven't raced TC since.
My question is this....... I have a RSD6 kit from this summer but haven't put it on yet. Most of the setups on here seem to be 6.1 based and I understand why. What should I do????? I am afraid to loose my TC6 setup and car that ran so great last time IF I convert it. Would I be able to get a 6.0 setup for the RSD?? Should I just buy a used 6.1 and convert it so I can use current info??? What do I still need that didn't come in the first RSD kit? Is the bellcrank setup different?
Sorry for so many questions.... I have a head full at the moment....
I have just read the last thirty pages of this thread to get caught up to date. I enjoy TC racing but just do it in the three cold months we have. Around here we don't have any outside racing other than offroad so I run my Losi 2.0 buggy from Mar to Nov. I have a TC6 that I bought last fall just before the 6.1 came out. I took it to the Snowbirds and had an awful time because I fought setup the whole time. At the time I didn't realize how different the 6 and 6.1 were in roll center setup and my buddies were giving me 6.1 numbers and I did lousy....... You know how hard it is to find a setup while at the Birds..... track time is non-existent. The next weekend I made the 3 hour trek to Nashvilles Thunder raceway and raised the rear RC two notches and WALLAAAA.... The car all of a sudden came to life and was a joy to drive. Now shortly after that I switched to offroad for the summer and haven't raced TC since.
My question is this....... I have a RSD6 kit from this summer but haven't put it on yet. Most of the setups on here seem to be 6.1 based and I understand why. What should I do????? I am afraid to loose my TC6 setup and car that ran so great last time IF I convert it. Would I be able to get a 6.0 setup for the RSD?? Should I just buy a used 6.1 and convert it so I can use current info??? What do I still need that didn't come in the first RSD kit? Is the bellcrank setup different?
Sorry for so many questions.... I have a head full at the moment....
The set-ups from the TC6 to RSD6 are sightly different. The RSD6 has a bit more of a rear ward weight bias so this allows you to run the same oil and spring F/R more often than with the TC6. There are a ton of set-ups on our website. Anyone of them would be a good starting point. Just look for one that matches your track conditions.
11-09-2012, 12:51 AM
#1706
11-09-2012, 10:15 AM
#1707
Tech Regular
I find that the car has more cornerspeed. The suspension "travels" really nicely (together with RSD bladder and piston). And i like the steering response better than on my TC6.1
11-09-2012, 10:47 AM
#1708
Among the things that I noticed myself was increased corner speed and overall traction. It also turns in harder than the TC6. The weight placement has been moved around to increase steering response, but the dual bellcrank steering smooths out this gained steering response.
The result is a car that steers more, but is much easier to drive.
The result is a car that steers more, but is much easier to drive.
11-09-2012, 10:49 AM
#1709
Oh, and the other advantage is that it is an ever-evolving platform. Next week we'll have the center mount servo mount. Within the next month or so, we'll reveal some other neat things we have been doing with our car to make it better. We have just been swamped lately.
