My, my... How things have changed... (back into r/c after a 5 year hiatus)
07-26-2009, 08:39 AM
#16
There are plenty of parts for the hyper around and its an awesome basher/racer. A friend of mine still races a 7 and has smoked many more modern cars. The 7 is 300, the losi is over 600. You could buy 2 hypers for the cost of 1 losi. Ofnas offerings are always underrated on forums but the people that go against the grain and use them have nothing but good to say.
07-26-2009, 08:50 AM
#17
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True, but if he is just a basher what does it matter? For a bashing the hyper is a way better deal. You don't need a spektrum for bashing or a race legal engine.
07-26-2009, 11:22 AM
#18
As I recall, HB didn't have the greatest reputation when I was still in things, which explains why I didn't even bother to look.
), and having a race legal engine is irrelevant since I'm not going to be picking up racing again. I'm not saying the 8ight is a bad platform or anything, the price simply isn't a justifiable one in my eyes.I have to drive back up to San Jose today to take care of some business stuff this week, but I'll take a look at that D8 kit, the CEN, and the 8.5. Thanks for the suggestions and let me know if you have any others
07-26-2009, 04:07 PM
#19
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll have to check 'em out. As I recall, HB didn't have the greatest reputation when I was still in things, which explains why I didn't even bother to look.
Also a good suggestion--will have to weigh that against the D8. Seems like they made some nice changes between the Hyper 7 and the 8.5...
The radio is an overpriced package of gadgets that I don't need and certainly would never buy (something like the Futaba 2PL FM or 3PM is about as fancy as I'd ever go), a starter box is great for racing at a track but I loathe them when bashing in remote locations (just one more thing to lug around every time I need to start the car... pull starters work just dandy and don't need batteries--just food), and having a race legal engine is irrelevant since I'm not going to be picking up racing again. I'm not saying the 8ight is a bad platform or anything, the price simply isn't a justifiable one in my eyes.
Bingo
I have to drive back up to San Jose today to take care of some business stuff this week, but I'll take a look at that D8 kit, the CEN, and the 8.5. Thanks for the suggestions and let me know if you have any others
As I recall, HB didn't have the greatest reputation when I was still in things, which explains why I didn't even bother to look.Also a good suggestion--will have to weigh that against the D8. Seems like they made some nice changes between the Hyper 7 and the 8.5...
The radio is an overpriced package of gadgets that I don't need and certainly would never buy (something like the Futaba 2PL FM or 3PM is about as fancy as I'd ever go), a starter box is great for racing at a track but I loathe them when bashing in remote locations (just one more thing to lug around every time I need to start the car... pull starters work just dandy and don't need batteries--just food
), and having a race legal engine is irrelevant since I'm not going to be picking up racing again. I'm not saying the 8ight is a bad platform or anything, the price simply isn't a justifiable one in my eyes.Bingo
I have to drive back up to San Jose today to take care of some business stuff this week, but I'll take a look at that D8 kit, the CEN, and the 8.5. Thanks for the suggestions and let me know if you have any others
07-26-2009, 05:10 PM
#20
good luck with the pull start and the am radio
07-26-2009, 05:17 PM
#21
im not sure the d8 is the best choice for bashing
07-26-2009, 07:50 PM
#23
Just go brushless.
Less maintenance, longer run time, more torque, more speed.
Less maintenance, longer run time, more torque, more speed.
07-26-2009, 09:52 PM
#24
Haha a pullstart isnt to bad if you have your motor tuned right(not my preference tho).
And for the AM radio, no one runs them anymore so he wont have any frequency problems. lol. AM or FM isnt to bad for what he wants. Just because a $300 radio has 30 more features (that no1 uses anyways) than a AM or FM radio doesnt make it a whole lot better!! But I sure like my m8..
I would say go with the 8.5 or d8. Very good vehicles for what you want.
And for the AM radio, no one runs them anymore so he wont have any frequency problems. lol. AM or FM isnt to bad for what he wants. Just because a $300 radio has 30 more features (that no1 uses anyways) than a AM or FM radio doesnt make it a whole lot better!! But I sure like my m8..
I would say go with the 8.5 or d8. Very good vehicles for what you want.
07-26-2009, 10:07 PM
#25
1/10th is mostly dead now, yeah, but the reason it is dead is because 1/8th scale is so much more fun! Way more speed, easier to drive, ten times as strong and just a lot more exciting. 1/8th scale is probably at a minimum twice the cost of 1/10th scale, but you really are getting twice the car.
07-26-2009, 10:21 PM
#26
The AM transmitter is an easy fix--I'll just swap electronics from the T3. The pull start, on the other hand, is a preference of mine.
...and batteries! Oh joy! My biggest gripe with electrics (and I've had a few) has always been with batteries and them not being charged when I want them to be. You can pull a well maintained nitro off a shelf, swap the tx and rx pack out for some AA's in a pinch, take it out side and run it. Keep a spare glow starter around that takes a regular C or D cell (in addition to the usual sub-C rechargeable) and you're set. As for run time, you can run a nitro until you run out of fuel (gotta keep at least a gallon around) or until you break something. I am sorry, I've learned to hate charging batteries over the years. Besides, maintenance is one of the fun parts!
Exactly
Haha a pullstart isnt to bad if you have your motor tuned right(not my preference tho).
And for the AM radio, no one runs them anymore so he wont have any frequency problems. lol. AM or FM isnt to bad for what he wants. Just because a $300 radio has 30 more features (that no1 uses anyways) than a AM or FM radio doesnt make it a whole lot better!!
And for the AM radio, no one runs them anymore so he wont have any frequency problems. lol. AM or FM isnt to bad for what he wants. Just because a $300 radio has 30 more features (that no1 uses anyways) than a AM or FM radio doesnt make it a whole lot better!!
07-27-2009, 06:03 AM
#27
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The AM transmitter is an easy fix--I'll just swap electronics from the T3. The pull start, on the other hand, is a preference of mine.
...and batteries! Oh joy! My biggest gripe with electrics (and I've had a few) has always been with batteries and them not being charged when I want them to be. You can pull a well maintained nitro off a shelf, swap the tx and rx pack out for some AA's in a pinch, take it out side and run it. Keep a spare glow starter around that takes a regular C or D cell (in addition to the usual sub-C rechargeable) and you're set. As for run time, you can run a nitro until you run out of fuel (gotta keep at least a gallon around) or until you break something. I am sorry, I've learned to hate charging batteries over the years. Besides, maintenance is one of the fun parts!
Exactly
...and batteries! Oh joy! My biggest gripe with electrics (and I've had a few) has always been with batteries and them not being charged when I want them to be. You can pull a well maintained nitro off a shelf, swap the tx and rx pack out for some AA's in a pinch, take it out side and run it. Keep a spare glow starter around that takes a regular C or D cell (in addition to the usual sub-C rechargeable) and you're set. As for run time, you can run a nitro until you run out of fuel (gotta keep at least a gallon around) or until you break something. I am sorry, I've learned to hate charging batteries over the years. Besides, maintenance is one of the fun parts!
Exactly
As for the rest of the stuff on the RTRs, well... sounds like you have electronics you are happy with... (you will probably find that the servos you used on the 1/10 scale are not up to the task of a bigger, heavier 1/8 scale, but if you like your current radio there is no reason to change that.) Since you don't care about being race legal, engine size doesn't matter... but I think the NEWER Hyper RTRs have a legal engine anyway.
The Hyper 7 would NOT be a competitive car for racing against the newer cars, but it is a solid platform, very durable and well made. The Hyper 8/8.5 is closer to being competitive, and in the hands of the right driver is capable of pretty good performance.
However, all of that being said... you might want to look at truggies instead. They're capable of dealing with rougher terrain than buggies, and are a lot of fun to drive. Just a thought.
07-27-2009, 05:50 PM
#28
You will probably find the pullstart on a .21 or larger engine to be less reliable than you are used to on the smaller mills. They are very prone to failure... although I DO understand what you are saying about lugging a starter box around, I think you will find they are almost mandatory on the larger engines.
As for the rest of the stuff on the RTRs, well... sounds like you have electronics you are happy with... (you will probably find that the servos you used on the 1/10 scale are not up to the task of a bigger, heavier 1/8 scale, but if you like your current radio there is no reason to change that.) Since you don't care about being race legal, engine size doesn't matter... but I think the NEWER Hyper RTRs have a legal engine anyway.
The Hyper 7 would NOT be a competitive car for racing against the newer cars, but it is a solid platform, very durable and well made. The Hyper 8/8.5 is closer to being competitive, and in the hands of the right driver is capable of pretty good performance.
However, all of that being said... you might want to look at truggies instead. They're capable of dealing with rougher terrain than buggies, and are a lot of fun to drive. Just a thought.
As for the rest of the stuff on the RTRs, well... sounds like you have electronics you are happy with... (you will probably find that the servos you used on the 1/10 scale are not up to the task of a bigger, heavier 1/8 scale, but if you like your current radio there is no reason to change that.) Since you don't care about being race legal, engine size doesn't matter... but I think the NEWER Hyper RTRs have a legal engine anyway.
The Hyper 7 would NOT be a competitive car for racing against the newer cars, but it is a solid platform, very durable and well made. The Hyper 8/8.5 is closer to being competitive, and in the hands of the right driver is capable of pretty good performance.
However, all of that being said... you might want to look at truggies instead. They're capable of dealing with rougher terrain than buggies, and are a lot of fun to drive. Just a thought.
Thats what am saying about the pull start...They are not the same as 1/10 pullstarts .....much harder to pull because of the more compression. The also break easier because of this.
Ya I agree with the truggy thing also. Truggy seems (don't have one...YET) to be the best vehicle for bashing yes better than an MT haha ...MT guys dont kill me
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