8T Track Setup Help
#1
8T Track Setup Help
I got a 8T
RB C6BB7T
Fironi Clutch
King Headz Motor Mount
CF Steering Ackerman
Diff fluid 7,30,5
I have trouble with mine not wanting to turn while on the track. My steering is going all the way to the steering stops. Every other car seems to be able to take the turns so easy but mine want to take long sweeps. Seems like it does it on and off power. But not sure. What can I do? Drives me nuts Im always hitting the guard pipes. Brakes are not dragging as I have springs installed. and plenty of gap
I went through not to long ago and set the droop and ride height according to some chart.
What are you guys doing for worn out hinge pin braces? Mine is so loose. I mean the whole truck is loose. lol.
RB C6BB7T
Fironi Clutch
King Headz Motor Mount
CF Steering Ackerman
Diff fluid 7,30,5
I have trouble with mine not wanting to turn while on the track. My steering is going all the way to the steering stops. Every other car seems to be able to take the turns so easy but mine want to take long sweeps. Seems like it does it on and off power. But not sure. What can I do? Drives me nuts Im always hitting the guard pipes. Brakes are not dragging as I have springs installed. and plenty of gap
I went through not to long ago and set the droop and ride height according to some chart.
What are you guys doing for worn out hinge pin braces? Mine is so loose. I mean the whole truck is loose. lol.
#3
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http://www.losi.com/ProdInfo/Files/8IGHTTDrakeStd08.pdf
may be a little to aggressive ..but it might be a starting point
may be a little to aggressive ..but it might be a starting point
#4
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check out
www.m2cracing.com
mitch makes an updated hinge pine holder thats adjustable ...i see alot of people running them at the track .....
www.m2cracing.com
mitch makes an updated hinge pine holder thats adjustable ...i see alot of people running them at the track .....
#6
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http://www.m2cracing.com/product.sc?...&productId=222
and m2c stuff is made by m2c at his shop ...its pretty quality stuff
#7
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m2c offers them .....
http://www.m2cracing.com/product.sc?...&productId=222
and m2c stuff is made by m2c at his shop ...its pretty quality stuff
http://www.m2cracing.com/product.sc?...&productId=222
and m2c stuff is made by m2c at his shop ...its pretty quality stuff
#8
The 30k in the center will definitely make it push and not want to turn as easily as a lighter fluid would allow.
But nobody mentioned to check your servo saver assembly. Make sure your saver hasn't backed way off causing less tension on your ss spring. That will also not allow your truggy to turn very well at any high speeds.
It's probably not the servo saver but just thought I would mention it as a possibility as it's happened to me before. I just use some blue loctite on the threads now and it never happens anymore.
But nobody mentioned to check your servo saver assembly. Make sure your saver hasn't backed way off causing less tension on your ss spring. That will also not allow your truggy to turn very well at any high speeds.
It's probably not the servo saver but just thought I would mention it as a possibility as it's happened to me before. I just use some blue loctite on the threads now and it never happens anymore.
#10
Ok, Update. I put am now 7,10 and I believe 3. Its better but still doesnt turn much. All the buggys at the local track cut in front of me during my wide turns. Doesnt matter really if they are slow to medium turns. My brother 8T does the same thing. I drove my dads buggy and it turn on a dime. I was running into all the guard rails. I am hitting the steering stops on the knuckles, servo saver is tight. All 3 cars have the same tires. I would say Im on the gas some during these turns. Any ideas? Does this truggy just not turn very quick? Seems like their geometry of the turnbuckles during full turn allows the opposite wheel, I think, to have quite a bit of movement. Like the turnbuckle is out of its range of motion. I think Im gonna get me a RC8. The turning kills me on the track. Otherwise I can beat everyone.
Driving me nuts.
Could toe or camber or the setup of the links do anything? Its got stock RTR shock fluid. I had the droop and ride height all setup couple times ago.
Driving me nuts.
Could toe or camber or the setup of the links do anything? Its got stock RTR shock fluid. I had the droop and ride height all setup couple times ago.
#11
I got a 8T
RB C6BB7T
Fironi Clutch
King Headz Motor Mount
CF Steering Ackerman
Diff fluid 7,30,5
I have trouble with mine not wanting to turn while on the track. My steering is going all the way to the steering stops. Every other car seems to be able to take the turns so easy but mine want to take long sweeps. Seems like it does it on and off power. But not sure. What can I do? Drives me nuts Im always hitting the guard pipes. Brakes are not dragging as I have springs installed. and plenty of gap
I went through not to long ago and set the droop and ride height according to some chart.
What are you guys doing for worn out hinge pin braces? Mine is so loose. I mean the whole truck is loose. lol.
RB C6BB7T
Fironi Clutch
King Headz Motor Mount
CF Steering Ackerman
Diff fluid 7,30,5
I have trouble with mine not wanting to turn while on the track. My steering is going all the way to the steering stops. Every other car seems to be able to take the turns so easy but mine want to take long sweeps. Seems like it does it on and off power. But not sure. What can I do? Drives me nuts Im always hitting the guard pipes. Brakes are not dragging as I have springs installed. and plenty of gap
I went through not to long ago and set the droop and ride height according to some chart.
What are you guys doing for worn out hinge pin braces? Mine is so loose. I mean the whole truck is loose. lol.
#12
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Ok, Update. I put am now 7,10 and I believe 3. Its better but still doesnt turn much. All the buggys at the local track cut in front of me during my wide turns. Doesnt matter really if they are slow to medium turns. My brother 8T does the same thing. I drove my dads buggy and it turn on a dime. I was running into all the guard rails. I am hitting the steering stops on the knuckles, servo saver is tight. All 3 cars have the same tires. I would say Im on the gas some during these turns. Any ideas? Does this truggy just not turn very quick? Seems like their geometry of the turnbuckles during full turn allows the opposite wheel, I think, to have quite a bit of movement. Like the turnbuckle is out of its range of motion. I think Im gonna get me a RC8. The turning kills me on the track. Otherwise I can beat everyone.
Driving me nuts.
Could toe or camber or the setup of the links do anything? Its got stock RTR shock fluid. I had the droop and ride height all setup couple times ago.
Driving me nuts.
Could toe or camber or the setup of the links do anything? Its got stock RTR shock fluid. I had the droop and ride height all setup couple times ago.
but no matter what turn it is if u get off the throttle durin the turn u can turn sharper. i have no problems with mine tho i run 7/20/3
#13
Tech Adept
Hey Speedfreak.... is there any guys running an 8T at your track? If there is I wouldnt be afraid to ask them for some help/tips. They can help you way more than anyone on here because they can look at your setup and look at how the truck runs on the track.
In the meantime.....
Set the truck up on something so the wheels arent touching the ground or table and switch on your radio gear. With your transmitter, turn the wheels left and right quickly. Ideally, the servo will respond pretty quickly and flick the steering assembly back and forth with ease. If not, listen to the servo. Any unusual buzzing or clicking noises suggest steering assembly binding.
If the servo sounds fine but is just slow, try to borrow a known working servo and install it to see if it is faster. If so, buy yourself a new servo. Also, if your radio has adjustable servo speed you should check to make sure the steering setting isnt too low.
You need to check those shocks out. I dont know how much use your truck has, but shocks play an important role in the handling of any vehicle. If you have put alot of time on the RTR shock oil I would say its time to freshen them up. If they arent leaking then its probably ok to dump the old fluid and pour in some fresh, but i would rebuild them while im in there anyway.
You say that you are using throttle in the corners? Try this. Finish your braking before the corner. Turn in and hug the inside tightly (90% of the time the fastest way around a corner) without using any throttle input until you start to exit the corner. Using throttle in some low speed corners will shift the weight of the truck rearward causing the front tires to lose traction and push towards the outside of the corner like you are describing. Im sure all of us want to take corners like Ryan Lutz, but its way harder than it looks.
In the meantime.....
Set the truck up on something so the wheels arent touching the ground or table and switch on your radio gear. With your transmitter, turn the wheels left and right quickly. Ideally, the servo will respond pretty quickly and flick the steering assembly back and forth with ease. If not, listen to the servo. Any unusual buzzing or clicking noises suggest steering assembly binding.
If the servo sounds fine but is just slow, try to borrow a known working servo and install it to see if it is faster. If so, buy yourself a new servo. Also, if your radio has adjustable servo speed you should check to make sure the steering setting isnt too low.
You need to check those shocks out. I dont know how much use your truck has, but shocks play an important role in the handling of any vehicle. If you have put alot of time on the RTR shock oil I would say its time to freshen them up. If they arent leaking then its probably ok to dump the old fluid and pour in some fresh, but i would rebuild them while im in there anyway.
You say that you are using throttle in the corners? Try this. Finish your braking before the corner. Turn in and hug the inside tightly (90% of the time the fastest way around a corner) without using any throttle input until you start to exit the corner. Using throttle in some low speed corners will shift the weight of the truck rearward causing the front tires to lose traction and push towards the outside of the corner like you are describing. Im sure all of us want to take corners like Ryan Lutz, but its way harder than it looks.
#14
I would definitely get rid of the stock rtr shock fluid. It's not the genuine losi bottled stuff it's some nasty stinky oil.
Another thing you might have overlooked is ride height. The losi's are very sensitive to ride height changes. The truggy should be set at this:
Front- 36mm
Rear- 38mm
Try this as it's the base T 1.0 race roller shock setup and it works excellent.
Shock oils:
Front- 54 piston/45wt oil Black spring
Rear- 56 piston/30wt oil Grey spring
Another thing you might have overlooked is ride height. The losi's are very sensitive to ride height changes. The truggy should be set at this:
Front- 36mm
Rear- 38mm
Try this as it's the base T 1.0 race roller shock setup and it works excellent.
Shock oils:
Front- 54 piston/45wt oil Black spring
Rear- 56 piston/30wt oil Grey spring