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Old 02-24-2013, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by golgi
I'm still fairly new to this car and using the stock oil dampeners. What is the benefit of upgrading to the TRF ones?
Mostly it is that the TRF shock is more adjustable and holds more oil and doesn't leak if built right, plus it looks nice too.
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:59 AM
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The kit supplied shocks leak easily and you can hear the air bubble-squeaks.
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On the trf shock.

Any internal limiters? Or shock length?
Which ball end?
What series of springs are you using? Fluorescent or black?
Shims under upper ball mount?
Shims under lower ball mount?

Droop and ride height under center and rear pod?

That should answer all of my questions.
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by edhchoe
The kit supplied shocks leak easily and you can hear the air bubble-squeaks.
Usually that indicates an error in building them. Mine and several others have no issues with the stock shocks but they will slowly leak after a few dozen races.
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by B00t13g
Droop and ride height under center and rear pod?
If you're talking about the height that the midsection of chassis sits, you adjust that by preloading the shock spring to get the proper sag height. Droop is how far the rear pod drops as you lift the center of the chassis, this you adjust by lengthening or shortening the shock shaft (rod end) or by placing internal limiters to shorten the stroke.

The rear pod height is set by using one of the appropriate bearing holders to raise or lower the pod height. There's three pairs of adjusters in the kit.

I'm not sure which spring would be best for your tracks and not familiar with using the TRF shock since I'm very pleased with the performance of my stock one. A good rule of thumb is a soft spring for a low bite track and a firm spring for a high bite track.

BTW I do use TRF shocks on my Mini and TC.
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:20 PM
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I was just asking how everyone had their trf shock setup. I understand how everything is set from running 1/12th scale. Just curious what others were running.
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Originally Posted by B00t13g
Evidently I'm not capable of figuring out how to get my trf damper mounted properly. My issue is I have the droop set where I would like it, but there's too much tension on the spring and I end up with a 5mm ride height where as the rear pod is at 4 and the front is at 4. I was using the long ball end with around 4mm of limiting mounted on the far holes of the middle shock mount. What am I doing wrong?
First you need to know what shock shaft you have build in along with the amount of spacers inside the damper (for rear droop purpose), cause the shock shaft of a touring car is about 2mm shorter then a shock shaft of the F103GT (53901)
My TRF damper is mounted just like yours and i have no problems with the spring having tension.
Hope this helps you.
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That did think you.


What's everyone running for ride height on carpet?
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Originally Posted by B00t13g
That did think you.


What's everyone running for ride height on carpet?
3.5 on Carpet, raise rear to 4mm for more turn-in
5mm + outdoors

As for the discussion about the kit shock vs: TRF shock
I recommend the kit shock for indoors, and TRF for rough outdoor tracks, as it has a much larger volume of oil, and is more durable

We have also run the TRF indoors a lot, it's a bit heavier, but it works great with less maintenance

Kit alu shock setting
3k silicon, with black spring

TRF shock setting
30wt AE Gold spring
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Originally Posted by RedBullFiXX
3.5 on Carpet, raise rear to 4mm for more turn-in
5mm + outdoors

As for the discussion about the kit shock vs: TRF shock
I recommend the kit shock for indoors, and TRF for rough outdoor tracks, as it has a much larger volume of oil, and is more durable

We have also run the TRF indoors a lot, it's a bit heavier, but it works great with less maintenance

Kit alu shock setting
3k silicon, with black spring

TRF shock setting
30wt AE Gold spring
Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.
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What's a good rear ride height for medium asphalt ?


Thanks, Brian
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Originally Posted by bribtb
What's a good rear ride height for medium asphalt ?


Thanks, Brian
Normally
As low as possible, without grinding the chassis over bumps
Unlike Sedans, Direct drive cars loose drive when the chassis bottoms out
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Originally Posted by RedBullFiXX
Normally
As low as possible, without grinding the chassis over bumps
Unlike Sedans, Direct drive cars loose drive when the chassis bottoms out
So lower more rear grip?
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Originally Posted by bribtb
So lower more rear grip?
More stability
Less chassis roll
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I just purchased a F104 pro to race in our local club (rubber tires, 21.5 blinky) I need to know what parts I should have on hand for spares. I am sure its been discussed a 1000 times. Can someone post a link to the thread that this has been covered on?
Thanks in advance
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