Team Durango DNX408 Prototype
#196
Honestly to me, there is NO comparison between the two.
The Serpent is truely not engineered...Billy is NOT a engineer, nor are most racers. They do they best they can from Driving experience which is how most RC cars have been developed. The backwards carb and servo heat possible issues show that it was a compromise. Why? To be different? It doesn't give a performance advantage??
The Durango has real educated engineers working and the design shows that, but time will tell once it hits the track. I just can't see it not being a performer and not a shelf queen. Anyone that really review the pics can see every single part has been designed and engineered.
Anyway, it is cool to see new buggies and I think all manufacturers will be forced to step atleast a little now.
The Serpent is truely not engineered...Billy is NOT a engineer, nor are most racers. They do they best they can from Driving experience which is how most RC cars have been developed. The backwards carb and servo heat possible issues show that it was a compromise. Why? To be different? It doesn't give a performance advantage??
The Durango has real educated engineers working and the design shows that, but time will tell once it hits the track. I just can't see it not being a performer and not a shelf queen. Anyone that really review the pics can see every single part has been designed and engineered.
Anyway, it is cool to see new buggies and I think all manufacturers will be forced to step atleast a little now.
#197
Tech Master
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To be fair, we haven't seen the whole Durango buggy yet, there are still a few key components that've been left out. Also, many of the wonderful innovations we have today, from the telephone to striped toothpaste were invented by amateurs totally out of their field of expertise. Just thought I'd mention that
#199
Tech Elite
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Engineers
Can be great, but can make things that don't really work in the real world. On paper, by the numbers doesn't really pan out, esp in rc cars. Now don't get me wrong, the durango looks really nice, but until it spins some laps, it just really pretty, and engineered....
#200
Tech Regular
If it sucks I'll have an excuse, when I raced the MBX5R and 6 I had none
#201
To be fair, it has to be assumed that Serpent has at least as much engineering resources, if not more than Durango. Serpent has been competitive in on-road for a decade or more with many generations of chassis in multiple scales, Durango was just Gerd Stenge and his ideas up until a year or two ago. Serpent saying that Billy Easton designed the car should not be taken to mean that Billy Easton designed the car alone. Both have a lot of borrowed design (I see lots of Losi geometry in both). Engineering is not design, it's making design work properly.
#202
Tech Master
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To be fair, it has to be assumed that Serpent has at least as much engineering resources, if not more than Durango. Serpent has been competitive in on-road for a decade or more with many generations of chassis in multiple scales, Durango was just Gerd Stenge and his ideas up until a year or two ago. Serpent saying that Billy Easton designed the car should not be taken to mean that Billy Easton designed the car alone. Both have a lot of borrowed design (I see lots of Losi geometry in both). Engineering is not design, it's making design work properly.
#203
I agree....I hope I didn't come off like a dick. I didn't not mean to take away from any other cars etc. I love my AE. I only meant, RC car drivers/Pro's know what a good buggy feels like and what they want, but engineers they are not. Maybe we need more racers designing our cars. LOL I don't know, the Durango just looks awesome and has a ton of attention right now.
I just see some really cool design/engineering in this buggy.
Like I said tho, it needs to perform and win races otherwise it is a shelf queen.
Time will tell.
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I just see some really cool design/engineering in this buggy.
Like I said tho, it needs to perform and win races otherwise it is a shelf queen.
Time will tell.
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#204
Tech Master
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Serpent USA is local to me and they are great guys but Serpent is not the same with the new Chinese owner. They left a lot of people hanging with they're 10th scale S400. They abandoned the car and stopped making parts very quickly.
I have built 2 serpents, the s400 and the f180. Neither went together without some small issues. Nothing major but not a good as the Xray, Jammin, Kyoshos and even Hotbodies that I have built.
Ive seen the Serpent run and it looked OK. Billy Easton can make anything fast. He recently won one of our state series with an old Thunder Tiger by 6 laps.
Serpent USA is local to me and they are great guys
I have built 2 serpents, the s400 and the f180. Neither went together without some small issues. Nothing major but not a good as the Xray, Jammin, Kyoshos and even Hotbodies that I have built.
Ive seen the Serpent run and it looked OK. Billy Easton can make anything fast. He recently won one of our state series with an old Thunder Tiger by 6 laps.
Serpent USA is local to me and they are great guys
#207
#210
For the hardcore racer/pro racer, this will be the car to have. With as many adjustments you can make and how fine tuned you can get the car, It will be invalueable and will set a new standard...
Now, for the mainstream, I don't see this car being as big. It is very complicated, Alot of innovative design, but along with that design looks to be extra wrenching time, and more steps to service. Although the car will not wear like other cars, it will be very difficult to work on, pretty much having to dissasemble the whole car to change a servo, ect.
I like the throttle assembly, I've been wanting to see something like that for some time, Easy to adjust the linkage, Hopefully it proves to be a good feature..
Not too crazy about steering servo location or about the hydraulic brakes. Hopefully there will be a standard brake system, The hydraulic brakes seems like overkill, on the up side will take less servo power to operate...
Can't wait to hold one in my hands...
Now, for the mainstream, I don't see this car being as big. It is very complicated, Alot of innovative design, but along with that design looks to be extra wrenching time, and more steps to service. Although the car will not wear like other cars, it will be very difficult to work on, pretty much having to dissasemble the whole car to change a servo, ect.
I like the throttle assembly, I've been wanting to see something like that for some time, Easy to adjust the linkage, Hopefully it proves to be a good feature..
Not too crazy about steering servo location or about the hydraulic brakes. Hopefully there will be a standard brake system, The hydraulic brakes seems like overkill, on the up side will take less servo power to operate...
Can't wait to hold one in my hands...