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Old 06-27-2015, 08:50 PM
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Dont change your setup, change your tires.
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Old 06-27-2015, 09:07 PM
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Should you turn brakes down via DR or going into EPA? Whats the difference?
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Originally Posted by KAWIDAD
What are the different handling characteristics for the jc finisher and jc silencer bodies?
For me the finisher locked in the rear end a little better and was a very neutral feeling body. The silencer has a more front positive feel to it, but that doesn't mean the rear end is very loose. It is still locked in, the car just reacts a little better. Personally I prefer the Silencer body on higher grip tracks, particularly indoor clay and carpet. Due to rain I haven't been able to test it out yet on an outdoor lower grip track. Outdoors the finnisher ran very well, and I don't know if I would need the extra steering from the Silencer.

The finnisher has much better airflow to the motor, if temps would be a problem. Though the Silencer does have areas for vent holes on the front end of the body (I have not cut any out).
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Originally Posted by 3srcracing
Should you turn brakes down via DR or going into EPA? Whats the difference?
http://www.futaba-rc.com/faq/faq-9c-q501.html

In layman's terms:

Dual rate affects the amount of movement seen on the other end to the same input on the radio end. (ratio)

EPA is the amount of movement total (how far your servo will move or not)

Exponential is movement on a curve vs linear...can be made to start hard and die off or start soft and climb or linear


It all depends on how you want to manipulate your brakes. Are they locking up? I would use the ESC. Are they coming on too hard or too soft? Use the radio exponential adjustment or EPA.
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Old 06-28-2015, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 3srcracing
Should you turn brakes down via DR or going into EPA? Whats the difference?
I used the ESC to turn brakes down. This gave me the full throw on the trigger still, so I could still modulate them when needed.
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Old 06-28-2015, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 3srcracing
Should you turn brakes down via DR or going into EPA? Whats the difference?
Generally dual rate will turn down both directions, meaning both brakes and throttle. So brake side EPA to just adjust brakes without changing the throttle settings. I agree available ESC brake settings should be used to get a suitable overall range, but I think fine tuning brake strength per conditions with the radio EPA is very valuable. In my opinion a radio must have a convenient brake adjustment feature to be considered race worthy.
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Old 06-28-2015, 03:14 PM
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Interesting, I have always just calibrated ESC at 100/100 then turned it down to 100/80.

So to turn the brake down on the Orions you need the program box?
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Originally Posted by Redsawacs
I am new to racing and to AE. I picked up a B5M lite and I want to run stock 17.5. I have a motor/esc but I need to get a battery for that class.

Do I need to put much stock into the weight of the battery? I'm sure I'll need a regular size "Shorty" instead of the thin pack to meet min weight of 1500. When looking at a battery for this class specifically, do I need a HUGE mah and a 100c rating? Or, is it better to conserve weight with a 3800-ish mah 50c-70c range battery?
Its not just the battery anymore its how people are charging them. Most people have the Ichargers and will charge their 3800 batteries at 25amps or higher instead of the 3.8amps it calls for. Not good for the battery but the power is unbelievable. I for one haven't invested in the $300 plus chargers and just deal with it.
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what is the difference in the v2 pistons? can you use original pistons on the new V2 shafts?
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Neg, center hole is bigger.
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:35 AM
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Thanks for the help guys. I spent about 4 hours at the track yesterday practicing and learning all the changes. There was a road race on the track outside so the dirt track was completely empty. Had a couple "regulars" help me out and the car is amazing now. Advanced the timing on the motor almost all the way, landed on a 72/29 gear ratio, put the green front springs back on, put 14 grams under the steering rack and its a totally different car. I actually have to use the brakes now! It turns on a dime, all it needs is a tiny bit of brake and it'll take the sharpest low speed turns now. I don't know what I like better, the newfound power or the ability to turn now haha. I left the trailing at 4 and it seems to be working, I don't think I need to change it. I wasn't even using tire softener so theres more traction left on the table. I can't wait to race now!
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Has anyone used the Revolution Design Racing Products RC10B5/RC10B5M VTS Slipper Kit? Or do you recommend the schelle/nova one over it.
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Originally Posted by Vigilante212
Has anyone used the Revolution Design Racing Products RC10B5/RC10B5M VTS Slipper Kit? Or do you recommend the schelle/nova one over it.
I would use the Avid Evo triad slipper over the RDRP slipper. The RDRP reminds me of the "clutch" basket that came out a few years ago for the sc10 4x4. While it was ok back then on the truck, the Triad slipper is just fantastic on the buggy.
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Anyway, I just wanted to say that this car is fing fantastic. Such a pleasure to drive around the track. I have owned a few different cars (RB6, dex210, tlr22, tlr22 2.0...) over the years and this car is just all that...ok fanboyism /off
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Originally Posted by mschumi101
For me the finisher locked in the rear end a little better and was a very neutral feeling body. The silencer has a more front positive feel to it, but that doesn't mean the rear end is very loose..
I found the exact opposite to be true. The dip behind the roof of the silencer seems to create a bit more down force on the rear of the buggy, giving it a slightly more planted feel. The straight back design of the finisher seems to give it a slightly more aggressive feel.

The differences are tiny. Pick the one you think looks better and practice.
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