Originally Posted by Trackie

Currently have this issue suddenly on my 417x.

My car tends to loose off power. Running on a low traction asphalt.
Box set up with minimum changes. just out of sudden it's so loose.

following set up is what i did to make the car handle well.

box set up for WB except front upper camber link 2mm spacer, rear upper camber link 4mm. toe out 2.5 degree. Ackerman 1mm spacer. droop front 4 and rear 5.

I find that howcome the car handles so differently hence I revert back to box set up but the car handles the same.

Currently car set up is "box set up", what i only change is front inner block 1b, front upper camber link with 3mm spacer. Front toe out 1degree. camber 1degree front and rear 1degree. droop front 6 rear 5

Spool in front and 1000wt for the rear. Running on ride spring front yellow and rear white

The car is still very loose off power compared to last time


Wonder for RCA is it ok to run such a difference on the upper camber link. and ackerman. Or I shld as long as the car handles well, differences doesn't matter.

Originally Posted by Trackie

Currently have this issue suddenly on my 417x.

My car tends to loose off power. Running on a low traction asphalt.
Box set up with minimum changes. just out of sudden it's so loose.

following set up is what i did to make the car handle well.

box set up for WB except front upper camber link 2mm spacer, rear upper camber link 4mm. toe out 2.5 degree. Ackerman 1mm spacer. droop front 4 and rear 5.

I find that howcome the car handles so differently hence I revert back to box set up but the car handles the same.

Currently car set up is "box set up", what i only change is front inner block 1b, front upper camber link with 3mm spacer. Front toe out 1degree. camber 1degree front and rear 1degree. droop front 6 rear 5

Spool in front and 1000wt for the rear. Running on ride spring front yellow and rear white

The car is still very loose off power compared to last time


Wonder for RCA is it ok to run such a difference on the upper camber link. and ackerman. Or I shld as long as the car handles well, differences doesn't matter.

Originally Posted by Pro10noob

You running stock??

Use the white springs up front and blue or yellow rear(both Tamiya).
Run 2.5 camber rear and 1.5 front
Go for Tamiya 900 shock oil in your rear gear diff and 400 in the shocks.
Toe out bring it back to 1 max
Check your suspensionshafts on binding or being bent.
Then try again.

regards Roy

Originally Posted by napoleon1981

Have you tried a different set of tires?

Originally Posted by Trackie

using prospect 450wt.

Originally Posted by Trackie

Currently have this issue suddenly on my 417x.

My car tends to loose off power. Running on a low traction asphalt.
Box set up with minimum changes. just out of sudden it's so loose.

following set up is what i did to make the car handle well.

box set up for WB except front upper camber link 2mm spacer, rear upper camber link 4mm. toe out 2.5 degree. Ackerman 1mm spacer. droop front 4 and rear 5.

I find that howcome the car handles so differently hence I revert back to box set up but the car handles the same.

Currently car set up is "box set up", what i only change is front inner block 1b, front upper camber link with 3mm spacer. Front toe out 1degree. camber 1degree front and rear 1degree. droop front 6 rear 5

Spool in front and 1000wt for the rear. Running on ride spring front yellow and rear white

The car is still very loose off power compared to last time


Wonder for RCA is it ok to run such a difference on the upper camber link. and ackerman. Or I shld as long as the car handles well, differences doesn't matter.

Originally Posted by CraigM

Your camber links are very wrong. Assuming you have the 0.5mm spacer on the c-hub and 3mm on the rear upright, then you should run 3.5-4mm front and 3-3.5mm rear - the lower the link the more grip that end of the car will have, so yes your car will be loose with a low front camber link and a high rear one.

Run 2mm ackerman and try a stiffer spring like ride red front/rear.

Originally Posted by Pro10noob

Running Tamiya 400 in my shocks and with your camber link setup i tend to understeer then and the rear is planted like a concreed brick
Check if the tires are glued perfectly all around.
This could also cause that problem.
Had it before with LRP tires but since i am running Sorex and Ride, no problems at all.

regards Roy
Ps 350WT is almost 400 Tamiya(bit higher)

Originally Posted by Trackie

i have another 417, it's box set up and the drive is awesome.. just did some minor changes and the rear is planted...

Originally Posted by Pro10noob

If both cars running box setup(like you said a few post back) and one is planted and the other is loose, then you need to check the car out inch by inch as there is something wrong with it.
Run them both in the same setup(the best you got) and compare.
The 417X should have more grip due to the fact that it has a chassis with more flex.
If it is the other wat around, take the car apart and check all parts for damage or binding.

Regards Roy

Originally Posted by kentech

The TRF one (42186) is for buggy adjusters.
The 53858 is for your TC adjusters.
Excellent tool!

Originally Posted by Glarke

Sorry, Im sure this has been covered before but is the box stock setup suitable for fairly low traction asphalt?
Im pretty new to on-road and Ill be running 13.5 boosted and was looking for a starting point where I wouldnt have to go out and buy springs, suspension blocks etc.
I have a full set of tamiya springs already and plenty of different weight oils from off-road.

Originally Posted by Glarke

Sorry, Im sure this has been covered before but is the box stock setup suitable for fairly low traction asphalt?
Im pretty new to on-road and Ill be running 13.5 boosted and was looking for a starting point where I wouldnt have to go out and buy springs, suspension blocks etc.
I have a full set of tamiya springs already and plenty of different weight oils from off-road.