Team Associated TC6 Thread
#8506
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Try this one. A lot of steering, very agile and onpower steering, but not loose. You can easily change the balance with the sway bars alone:
http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/asso...enden20121007/
The TC6.1 loves a diff in front under low-medium grip conditions.
http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/asso...enden20121007/
The TC6.1 loves a diff in front under low-medium grip conditions.
Best setup I've found for for low traction asphalt is Andrew Abbotts here:
http://www.teamassociated.com/pdf/ca...enats_2011.pdf
http://www.teamassociated.com/pdf/ca...enats_2011.pdf
#8508
How much lighter are they if any to stock? Any way you could find out?
So 6.1 front c hub
Bearings
Is all I need? Is the outer pin that goes in hex the same? I looked on tq and there are a few. 44mm, 46, or is the yokohomo the only that fits? I looked at the spec r for tamiya 416 46mm shafts and they also take a 5x10
So 6.1 front c hub
Bearings
Is all I need? Is the outer pin that goes in hex the same? I looked on tq and there are a few. 44mm, 46, or is the yokohomo the only that fits? I looked at the spec r for tamiya 416 46mm shafts and they also take a 5x10
--- Spec-R PN SPR001-BD2 DCJ CV Universal Swing Shaft Version 2 (for Yokomo BD5)
--- Spec-R PN SPR-R1A122 R1 2 x 10 Pin
--- Spec-R PN SPR-R1A110 R1 Aluminum Wheel Hex
--- 4mm shims, such as 3Racing PN 3RAC-SW04 Stainless Steel 4mm Shim Spacer 0.1/0.2/0.3mm
--- Associated PN 31370 TC6.1 Axle Crush Tubes
--- Associated PN 31360 TC6.1 Steering Blocks
--- 2 ea 5x10x4mm ball bearings (e.g. Associated PN 25237)
The above items fit in the TC6.1 Caster Blocks PN 31358 with almost no trimming of the caster block’s inside cutout. The TC5/TC6 Caster Blocks (e.g. PN 31558, 31557, 31556, 31555, 31213, 31212, 31211 or 31210) can also be used but their inside cutout must be substantially enlarged to make room for the double cardan joint, which protrudes further inboard than the TC6’s standard CV joint.
The Spec-R BD5 DCJ’s weigh 8.7g each. The stock TC6 CV’s weigh 9.2g each.
I’m not sure which other manufacturer’s DCJ’s would fit, as the Spec-R ones are the only ones I’ve tried.
#8509
To use the Spec-R BD5 DCJ's in a TC6, the following parts would be needed:
--- Spec-R PN SPR001-BD2 DCJ CV Universal Swing Shaft Version 2 (for Yokomo BD5)
--- Spec-R PN SPR-R1A122 R1 2 x 10 Pin
--- Spec-R PN SPR-R1A110 R1 Aluminum Wheel Hex
--- 4mm shims, such as 3Racing PN 3RAC-SW04 Stainless Steel 4mm Shim Spacer 0.1/0.2/0.3mm
--- Associated PN 31370 TC6.1 Axle Crush Tubes
--- Associated PN 31360 TC6.1 Steering Blocks
--- 2 ea 5x10x4mm ball bearings (e.g. Associated PN 25237)
The above items fit in the TC6.1 Caster Blocks PN 31358 with almost no trimming of the caster block’s inside cutout. The TC5/TC6 Caster Blocks (e.g. PN 31558, 31557, 31556, 31555, 31213, 31212, 31211 or 31210) can also be used but their inside cutout must be substantially enlarged to make room for the double cardan joint, which protrudes further inboard than the TC6’s standard CV joint.
The Spec-R BD5 DCJ’s weigh 8.7g each. The stock TC6 CV’s weigh 9.2g each.
I’m not sure which other manufacturer’s DCJ’s would fit, as the Spec-R ones are the only ones I’ve tried.
--- Spec-R PN SPR001-BD2 DCJ CV Universal Swing Shaft Version 2 (for Yokomo BD5)
--- Spec-R PN SPR-R1A122 R1 2 x 10 Pin
--- Spec-R PN SPR-R1A110 R1 Aluminum Wheel Hex
--- 4mm shims, such as 3Racing PN 3RAC-SW04 Stainless Steel 4mm Shim Spacer 0.1/0.2/0.3mm
--- Associated PN 31370 TC6.1 Axle Crush Tubes
--- Associated PN 31360 TC6.1 Steering Blocks
--- 2 ea 5x10x4mm ball bearings (e.g. Associated PN 25237)
The above items fit in the TC6.1 Caster Blocks PN 31358 with almost no trimming of the caster block’s inside cutout. The TC5/TC6 Caster Blocks (e.g. PN 31558, 31557, 31556, 31555, 31213, 31212, 31211 or 31210) can also be used but their inside cutout must be substantially enlarged to make room for the double cardan joint, which protrudes further inboard than the TC6’s standard CV joint.
The Spec-R BD5 DCJ’s weigh 8.7g each. The stock TC6 CV’s weigh 9.2g each.
I’m not sure which other manufacturer’s DCJ’s would fit, as the Spec-R ones are the only ones I’ve tried.
Thanks for taking the time to write the info. Ill get on ordering that stuff asap.
#8510
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...-part-2-a.html
#8511
Are the DCJs really worth it? Compared to a couple of other conpanies, I have seen no top drivers using them, nor is it in any set up sheet that I have seen.
#8512
Here's a link to the VTA thread. Its hard to find sometimes because they had to restart it due to a page stacking problem:
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...-part-2-a.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...-part-2-a.html
#8513
Spec-r swingshafts for Yokomo BD5
Thanks a million WASWADENER. It took me a while to get some answers on this and you sure steered me in the right direction. Actually, you gave me more information than SPEC-R tech as well as the best way to maintain them. Thanks again for responding and Happy New Year
Last edited by rclife66; 01-03-2013 at 09:54 AM. Reason: mispell
#8514
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The other popular DCJ shafts for the 6.1 are from Reflex Racing. You'll notice the RDS dual joints are listed on Mike Haynes' setup sheet from the IIC. I'm trying some in mine. They fit great. Also, Cristian at Reflex is great to deal with.
Keven H. listed the 44mm Tamiya dual joints on his Indoor Champs setup, so I guess you've got some other options.
I've been running the standard shafts in mine. As long as you grease them up well, they last a long time and work great.
Keven H. listed the 44mm Tamiya dual joints on his Indoor Champs setup, so I guess you've got some other options.
I've been running the standard shafts in mine. As long as you grease them up well, they last a long time and work great.
#8515
+1 on the DCJ's. I use the Reflex Racing ones. You'd need to dremmel out the C Hub as described above, purchase 5mm Hexes, and 2mm pins to complete the conversion. The DCJ's eliminate axle binding during cornering/steering input, enabling you to drive smoother and faster through turns compared to stock axles.
#8517
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Thanks guys for the plug.
Our new V2 Narrow axle DCJs fit even better and require little to no trimming on the TC6.1 caster blocks.
The plus on out DCJs is that our dog bone ball size is the proper size. The Yokomo is a bit undersized, and while they will work, they are going to be more prone to failure and vibration.
Our new V2 Narrow axle DCJs fit even better and require little to no trimming on the TC6.1 caster blocks.
The plus on out DCJs is that our dog bone ball size is the proper size. The Yokomo is a bit undersized, and while they will work, they are going to be more prone to failure and vibration.
#8518
Tech Addict
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31356 TC6.1 Front Arms
31357 TC6.1 Rear Arms
31358 TC6.1 Caster Blocks
31359 TC6.1 Rear Hub Carriers
31360 TC6.1 Steering Block
31361 TC6.1 Offset Arm Mounts
31362 TC6.1 Anti-roll Bar Set
31363 TC6.1 Anti-roll Bar Tube
31364 TC6.1 Anti-roll Bar Wire
31365 TC6.1 Anti-roll Bar Mount
31366 TC6.1 CVA Kit
31367 TC6.1 CVA Rebuild Kit
31368 TC6.1 CVA Bone
31369 TC6.1 CVA Axle
31370 TC6.1 Axle Crush Tube
31344 TC6 Gear Diff.
Is it necassary? No, but nice. Especially the gear diff.
31357 TC6.1 Rear Arms
31358 TC6.1 Caster Blocks
31359 TC6.1 Rear Hub Carriers
31360 TC6.1 Steering Block
31361 TC6.1 Offset Arm Mounts
31362 TC6.1 Anti-roll Bar Set
31363 TC6.1 Anti-roll Bar Tube
31364 TC6.1 Anti-roll Bar Wire
31365 TC6.1 Anti-roll Bar Mount
31366 TC6.1 CVA Kit
31367 TC6.1 CVA Rebuild Kit
31368 TC6.1 CVA Bone
31369 TC6.1 CVA Axle
31370 TC6.1 Axle Crush Tube
31344 TC6 Gear Diff.
Is it necassary? No, but nice. Especially the gear diff.
Last edited by RussF; 01-03-2013 at 04:55 PM. Reason: updated
#8519
Tech Elite
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31356 TC6.1 Front Arms
31357 TC6.1 Rear Arms
31358 TC6.1 Caster Blocks
31359 TC6.1 Rear Hub Carriers
31360 TC6.1 Steering Block
31361 TC6.1 Offset Arm Mounts
31362 TC6.1 Anti-roll Bar Set
31363 TC6.1 Anti-roll Bar Tube
31364 TC6.1 Anti-roll Bar Wire
31365 TC6.1 Anti-roll Bar Mount
31366 TC6.1 CVA Kit
31367 TC6.1 CVA Rebuild Kit
31368 TC6.1 CVA Bone
31369 TC6.1 CVA Axle
31370 TC6.1 Axle Crush Tube
31344 TC6 Gear Diff.
Is it necassary? No, but nice. Especially the gear diff.
31357 TC6.1 Rear Arms
31358 TC6.1 Caster Blocks
31359 TC6.1 Rear Hub Carriers
31360 TC6.1 Steering Block
31361 TC6.1 Offset Arm Mounts
31362 TC6.1 Anti-roll Bar Set
31363 TC6.1 Anti-roll Bar Tube
31364 TC6.1 Anti-roll Bar Wire
31365 TC6.1 Anti-roll Bar Mount
31366 TC6.1 CVA Kit
31367 TC6.1 CVA Rebuild Kit
31368 TC6.1 CVA Bone
31369 TC6.1 CVA Axle
31370 TC6.1 Axle Crush Tube
31344 TC6 Gear Diff.
Is it necassary? No, but nice. Especially the gear diff.
-Mike
#8520
Tech Regular
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+1 on the DCJ's. I use the Reflex Racing ones. You'd need to dremmel out the C Hub as described above, purchase 5mm Hexes, and 2mm pins to complete the conversion. The DCJ's eliminate axle binding during cornering/steering input, enabling you to drive smoother and faster through turns compared to stock axles.