Kyosho Ultima RB6 & RB6.6 Car Thread
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#1261
aahh I see what you are saying... if you flip the caster insert over so the hole is towards the inside of the car, the front track is widened by the offset of the hole. This gives more front end stability, and slightly tamer steering. (higher roll center, box setup). If you run the hole on the outside, the track will come in, lowering the roll center, giving you a bit more steering. However, I don't know if the C-hub will rub the arm if running the short setting (is it designed as a tuning option?) Has anybody tried?
Last edited by Cpt.America; 10-09-2012 at 11:03 AM.
#1263
Tech Elite
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Thanks for the feedback guys. I'm learning a lot about offroad 2wd buggies from this thread! I've modified my list by adding and removing items based on the recommendations. So far, the build/setup is going very smoothly. However, I've observed/ran into a few things that didn't go exactly as planned and/or wasn't clear in the manual/setup sheet.
1) Some filing/cutting was required on the underside of the "Front Upper Plate" to ensure it sat flush on top of the "Front Bulkhead". I'm not exactly sure why this piece was molded this way. I'm going to assume that I made the right call in removing this piece.
2) I want to confirm that 'Block position: In' = wider front track width and 'Block position: Out' = narrower front track width.
3) There is play/slop between the suspension bushings and the composite suspension holders. I hope that the alum suspension holders and the delrin bushings takes care of this issue.
1) Some filing/cutting was required on the underside of the "Front Upper Plate" to ensure it sat flush on top of the "Front Bulkhead". I'm not exactly sure why this piece was molded this way. I'm going to assume that I made the right call in removing this piece.
2) I want to confirm that 'Block position: In' = wider front track width and 'Block position: Out' = narrower front track width.
3) There is play/slop between the suspension bushings and the composite suspension holders. I hope that the alum suspension holders and the delrin bushings takes care of this issue.
#1265
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Hey guys, had a quick question for you, i was looking through some of the rb6 stuff and it looks like the step 2.0 rear wing is really popular. Then i check the price out and its about $14 for one wing...im a AE guy and usually use the JC wings and get 2 for about $8-10. Are the kyosho wings molded out of a thicker lexan, like the LMR wings? Also, just curious, did any of you used to have a B4.1 that could compare the rb6 to? I just saw my first one run this past weekend and it looked awesome. Thanks!
#1267
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Thanks for the reply...I had one of the original RB5's when they first came out about 6 or so years ago. I remember it being fairly durable. It was fairly hard to get parts for back then but with Amain and a few other shops carrying them it shouldnt be too bad nowadays. So they are running the B44 wing, the regular AE one of the JC stuff? I can usually get some pretty good life out of the AE diff, some parts wear though.
#1268
So I am looking at Tebo's setup sheet from the supernats... and it LOOKS like he was running NO screws on the chassis side pods. NONE of the three side screws? I am just curious as to if the front most and rear most screws are strong enough to keep the chassis from bending down the middle?
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/kyosho/...2012/setup.pdf
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/kyosho/...2012/setup.pdf
#1269
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Thanks for the reply...I had one of the original RB5's when they first came out about 6 or so years ago. I remember it being fairly durable. It was fairly hard to get parts for back then but with Amain and a few other shops carrying them it shouldnt be too bad nowadays. So they are running the B44 wing, the regular AE one of the JC stuff? I can usually get some pretty good life out of the AE diff, some parts wear though.
#1270
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So I am looking at Tebo's setup sheet from the supernats... and it LOOKS like he was running NO screws on the chassis side pods. NONE of the three side screws? I am just curious as to if the front most and rear most screws are strong enough to keep the chassis from bending down the middle?
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/kyosho/...2012/setup.pdf
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/kyosho/...2012/setup.pdf
Dean
#1271
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So I am looking at Tebo's setup sheet from the supernats... and it LOOKS like he was running NO screws on the chassis side pods. NONE of the three side screws? I am just curious as to if the front most and rear most screws are strong enough to keep the chassis from bending down the middle?
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/kyosho/...2012/setup.pdf
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/kyosho/...2012/setup.pdf
#1272
They are. I tested this last night, I went back to my setup which has them in there. the plastic really sint strong enough in my opinion to totally eliminate flex, maybe taking out 1 on each side to get a tad more flex, but from driving the car I dont see the need for added flex.
Did anybody also notice that he is running the SHORT shock ends on the rear of the car... AND a 1mm internal limiter? Man.. he must of been hating off power steering at that track. I wonder what his overall droop was? I think he was running different rear arms?
#1273
the chassis was pretty flexible in my hands before i built it, i couldn't imagine needing all of that in any situation.
#1274
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aahh I see what you are saying... if you flip the caster insert over so the hole is towards the inside of the car, the front track is widened by the offset of the hole. This gives more front end stability, and slightly tamer steering. (higher roll center, box setup). If you run the hole on the outside, the track will come in, lowering the roll center, giving you a bit more steering. However, I don't know if the C-hub will rub the arm if running the short setting (is it designed as a tuning option?) Has anybody tried?
The play/slop I'm experiencing is not due to the insufficient use of spacers/shims on the suspension shaft. I have the appropriate amount of spacers/shims (2.3mm total) to eliminate the back and forth play while achieving free arm movement. The slop is in between the bushing and the hole in the suspension holder. I'm sure the Alum holder matched up with the delrin bushing will take care of this.
#1275
Tech Regular
Well that would depend on how much traction you have at your track. More chassis flex = more mechanical grip. Traction was pretty poor at the supernats, so I can see why Tebo was trying to get as much traction as possible.
Did anybody also notice that he is running the SHORT shock ends on the rear of the car... AND a 1mm internal limiter? Man.. he must of been hating off power steering at that track. I wonder what his overall droop was? I think he was running different rear arms?
Did anybody also notice that he is running the SHORT shock ends on the rear of the car... AND a 1mm internal limiter? Man.. he must of been hating off power steering at that track. I wonder what his overall droop was? I think he was running different rear arms?
While the setup was good for him at the Nats, I think people should go with the box setup and tune from there.