Thanks for all the help. I like the MP777 & X1X also. I will be racing eventually, no bashing. The Hyper 9 RTR is outta my price range. I'm looking for a buggy under $400. I have been on here all day in the For sale section. I'm looking at a 2 month old Ofna Picco that I heard good things about. Also checking out Mugen. Thank's again for the help. Ron