i have a venom creeper with near new novak 55 turn,futaba esc,and a near new tranny with less then an hour of run time on it.i extended the links and installed 8th scale buggy shocks and made my own stage 2 kit for it.it crawled better the my friends ax10. let me know and i will post pics as soon as i can.im a couple hours away from home but will be home tomarow night .