havent been on in a while because i was moving but i got rid of the d8 the 27th to a local guy...even came and got it,as far as shipping...i dont trust anyone really regardless of the safeguards that are out there...its to easy to get burned and especially around the holidays its even worse. ive only did one out of state shipping deal and it was on someone elses dime and insured. i dont have the extra scratch to be boxing up something valuble and sending it to someone and wondering if im gonna get burned,i dont have and will never have pay pal,i have trust issues with banks because my identity was stolen through my own bank. so if you can see it from my point of view then you would understand whay i like to deal local cash or trade in hand.