I went with the rc8t over the HB truck. Its a zero issue truck.. drop it on the track as it cones out the box and race a top level truck. No upgrade parts needed. Look at the used VS used. Se trucks are sold stock. The others have $200 worth of aftermarket or other manufactures parts to make them right. I am watching the HB trucks to see if my view in it adds up because I was thinking about getting one. But right now im running a truck I know my local hobby shop carries parts for.