Im a great fan of DE products.. and have the tank pull.. tyre spikes and had rear skids. I have recently stopped running the skids as, only seemed to notice that when running them.. my car occasionally started acting funny.. and bucking a bit. Once a friend said to me, it looked a bit strange sometimes. Im not sure if its the same over in the US with buttery smooth tracks compared to here in the UK.. but ever since taking them off its been alot more consistent.. think it was if it cached a rock or something under acceleration.. but of a shame, as I liked the de skids.. but and with some of our tracks being rough.. seemed to get destroyed alot more and the skids sometimes get caught and act like a shovel.. but cant wait to get my hands on some 808 Mud guards when ever they get the the UK any idea who and where will have them in 1st? cheers