birdy233 ...... don't want to worry about breaking a T-bar again, need a hop up for that 12L3. Well how about a Speedmerchant Rev 3, No T-bar to break there. The oher thing you could try is one of the new Sylva Concepts spring steel T-plates. I've not tried one cause I don't own a t-bar car but I did use a Trinity spring steel t-plae in my oval car last year and somewhere on this thread somebody was talking about running one in their on-road 12th scale. As DPowell said though, you hit enough stuff eventually any t-bar will break.