let me start with d8 have not driven one but have seen a few break but when running look fast. rc8b is good buggy i didnt like cause dosnt carry good corner speed driven the way i drive which is hard to corner slide around and gun it out ae car didnt like that style it is more of on road apex corner style car losi nice for me very stable in corners jumping tons of steering and can be pushed gets loose but not out of control loose and parts support for the losi is good every where that has 1/8th r/c as for electric my home track is the home track for the owners of tekno r/c so get to see all the best electric stuff only thing i dont like aoubt them is 20 min run is iffy and some cant make the 15 min main either so unless there is enough of them at your local track to run e only class will have to deal with dumping worries in 15min plus mains. for me it is losi 2.0 and mugen would be my second choice just didnt liek support for mugen in my area