other tahn a green scothbright and some elbow greese. you can try some catsup. the acids in the tomato juice may brake down the burn on greese. and no im not kidding. my drummer used to use Huntz Katsup on his cymbals every once in a while to clean them up. katsup, let set for a while. rinse in hot water, and followed up with a cymbal cleaner/polsiher. to keep the shine around