http://www.venom-racing.com/products..._box/index.htm
How bout this one also? Yeah, they are almost the same. That's why the Losi box is so affordable. Look around at the high end boxes. 85 to 130. Several items in this industry are similar for cost saving and a large company owning several smaller ones. I didn't major in business so I don't know the proper terminology. Forgive me. But there are seveal motors and engines that are the same as others and labeled different.