But think, most of the people on those boards are noobs, they say what they hear, if you look at 1/10th of the topics there aways comparing it to hpi, but also you are right, they ask what is a better car and most of the time its aways something better than hpi, but I really think they should have left the forums there at least there wasent them asses that put pictures of there crap in the toilet and stuff... what jackasses.