Hmmm I'll have to try it here. We have a paved asphalt track and I'll try it out there. Should I try it in mod or stock? Foam or Rubber tires? Been looking to get my 414 to hook up. It seems fast and smooth here. But my TC3 is about .5 secs faster per lap than my 414. Of course this is in stock class with a new belt which seems to be pretty tense right now. Not even using the belt tensioner. I dunno, we'll see sometime this week during track testing....