Yeah the car plus the laydown conversion is pricey for sure. But now they have the dirt conversion laydown so that's another 80 bucks on top of the car and conversion. I did go ahead and get all of it. Why because I like the 3.0. Haven't ran it yet in laydown. I also bought a b6d with the laydown conversion. I'm gonna test them back to back this weekend. But I will say the 3.0 to me anyways is higher quality car. I'm sure tlr will listen and offer a chassis that fits every configuration. I guess my biggest complaint is the cost of the dirt laydown price. 80 bucks seems high for a motor plate and a gear box